I will never return to an office. Feels like stone age thinking about that.
Poll: Why are people leaving their jobs?
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#532Earlier quoted context omitted.
I think the old generation really bought into this, but the new generation knows it's a load of bull. The poll makes it pretty obvious that compensation is the biggest reason folks leave, and it's the thinking of the old generation who doesn't know how to retain talent (they do, but they keep throwing pizza parties / sending out merch instead). It's a real "it can't be helped" mentality around retention.
Why is compensation #1 though? There is a threshold where you have enough money and it's easier to work with people you know and like. So, what do they need that extra money for? As I mentioned elsewhere housing is currently the #1 issues I see here in Canada that people are focused on. If you are a front line person, making $15 at a restaurant, plus renting where housing costs $1m+, you are probably looking for opti…
With "compensation" winning maybe it's relevant to think about the effects of runaway inflation. Currently getting up to ~10% (US). It would make sense as peoples purchasing power diminishes they reassess their earning potential.
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#533For more than a year I've been trying to get it clear to my boss that I'm too stressed and need a less chaotic workplace. The last months I've had constant headache and fuzzy vision. I checked my blood pressure and it was 180/95. Ten months earlier when I last checked it it was 130/83. On medication now, but my heart beats so hard sometimes I think I need more medication. When I told my boss about this, he said the u…
> Leave, and start my own company. I don't think that's going to be less stressful... Good luck though!
Yeah I think many who’ve been in bad work situations like this don’t realize that not every company is like that. There are sane employers and teams out there that treat each other with respect. Please take that into consideration before going the other extreme of trying to start your own company, unless that’s always been a goal of yours
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#534My old boss Eric Carlsen used to say, nobody left because of money. They may get more money if they change jobs. But they start looking because they're unhappy. So when somebody asked for more money, he'd start by asking what was bothering them.
I think the old generation really bought into this, but the new generation knows it's a load of bull. The poll makes it pretty obvious that compensation is the biggest reason folks leave, and it's the thinking of the old generation who doesn't know how to retain talent (they do, but they keep throwing pizza parties / sending out merch instead). It's a real "it can't be helped" mentality around retention.
I do find it surprising compensation is at the top.
I've never changed jobs over money. In fact several times I've taken new jobs that pay less on the promise of it being more fun.
Which is not to say I'll work for unreasonably low pay, I talk comp ranges with recruiters first to know if it is worth continuing the discussion.
But beyond a reasonable point, more pay doesn't make any difference (well, unless it's like 20x more, but nobody is offering that). A pleasant working environment, interesting projects, ownership, sane management, being respected, work/life balance and vacations; all of these are to me a lot more important than +/- 100K of pay.
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#535One of the good things that I think happened from the pandemic is that more and more people are realizing that tying up your identity and sense of self-worth in your job is a bad thing, that's why I'm very glad to see compensation so high on this list. Sure, everyone wants to work in a good working environment, but I think the idea that "nobody left because of the money" is finally being put to bed. The fact is that…
To expand on this, when can we stop asking “so what do you do?” as one of the first things when meeting someone for the first time?
I'm guilty of this in the past and I agree. Maybe in the future we can instead say, "What do you love doing?"
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#536Ten years at the company I joined after college. I loved it, but faltered in the last year in a new role and environment that was different. With covid and all the nostalgia of the campus gone, I got a cold call offering a job with a large pay bump in my prior field of expertise. No brainer.
Change is good.
Re: Poll: Why are people leaving their jobs?
#537My old boss Eric Carlsen used to say, nobody left because of money. They may get more money if they change jobs. But they start looking because they're unhappy. So when somebody asked for more money, he'd start by asking what was bothering them.
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#538Earlier quoted context omitted.
Same thing happened to me at my last company. I was over worked, wore too many hats, and was paid significantly less than my team mates who were more junior than I was (and had less responsibility). I had a handful of conversations that never amounted to anything. As soon as I put in my notice with a new offer in hand suddenly I was able to "set my price". I left for other reasons as well, but it really shone a light…
Too many roles / too many hats is far too common and why I find it hard to stay anywhere more than 4-5 years. As a senior IC in a super-flat & growing org.. I'm almost like a customer successs engineer, product manager, scrum master, senior developer and tech lead all rolled into one. Management administrivia I accumulate administrative things my manager doesn't want to do & pushes down I do unofficially own a part o…
What you're describing is a Staff or Principal Engineer title and should be compensated accordingly.
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#539Rather than quit or retire, I lingered in hopes of being laid off (letting my high pay level, ageism and existing "we don't need Senior Engineers; we have really smart management to do the thinking ahead etc. for the junior engineers" attitudes run their natural course). I "achieved" being laid off 4 months ago at age 58 and collected a nice (9 months' pay) severance package as a precursor to (this month) finally dec…
> letting my high pay level, ageism and existing "we don't need Senior Engineers; we have really smart management to do the thinking ahead etc. for the junior engineers" > Why run the Leetcode gauntlet (which seems to closely resemble Final Exams Week from my Uni days, with the same intense cramming prerequisite) It seems like a massive waste that we've decided to essentially kick someone like you, with lots of exper…
Just after being laid off, I was thinking I would love to find part-time work in my profession, but as far as I can tell no such thing exists (for an unknown such as myself). Non-W2 contracting might be as close as I could get, but in that case, it'd be "a few months on (40+ hrs/wk), a few months off" rather than 20 hours per week steady work.
Having now experienced the absence of the daily grind for over 4 months (for the first time in my adult life), I am getting so used to being away from it that I realize I would probably have a hard time going back to the grind, regimentation, and employer expectations of "gung ho" spirit pursuing the idealistic mission statement proffered by top management (yes, I'm cynical). So in the end I think where I'm at is good for me for now. I've been blessed to have a successful, lucrative (though perhaps only slightly above average in my field) career that (combined with aggressive saving and investing for that duration) enables me to uncouple from it at this time without financial worry. And you never know when a sufficiently interesting (while simultaneously lacking in BS) opportunity might appear...
Re: Poll: Why are people leaving their jobs?
#540I left my job last year to go to grad school - Over the last 10 years I'd started a couple companies, grinded out and moved all around the country. My company was successful, grew beyond 10 people and I felt I could in good conscience leave it and everything would stay on course. Now I'm on track to be a lawyer. Covid is a time of reinvention I suppose.