Kind of related : America Is Falling Apart at the Seams https://www.nytimes.com/2022/01/13/opinion/america-falling-a... A loss of civic sense and cultural criminality are incredibly hard to weed out of a population, once it has taken root. I worry that the a mix of pessimism and a loss of civic sense is sending non-elite America into a death spiral. Opponents of return-to-normalcy claim that these are temporary and a…
Train burglaries in LA
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#482Earlier quoted context omitted.
When I was in jail I met dozens of people who have done this. None of it was organized that I was aware of, it was just opportunistic. Some friends would get together and say "Let's go wait for a train and bust open some containers." There are literally thousands of places where it is possible to do this.
When I was a kid, the train conductors would shoot salt rounds at us from their shotguns. I guess that's not the case anymore?
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#483They are looking at 20 years if they get caught: 18 U.S. Code section 1991 Additionally they are releasing hazardous materials by breaking open boxes: 18 U.S. Code section 1992
> They are looking at 20 years if they get caught: 18 U.S. Code section 1991 likely not, see https://www.popehat.com/2013/02/05/crime-whale-sushi-sentenc...
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#484> It’s not just in LA, theft and vandalism have gone way up on all the rail networks. My company is experiencing some of the worst loss numbers while in rail transit. We just announced that all transport carts will be welded shut and unwelded when it gets to the destination. Even locks aren’t enough.
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#485Amazon has already started doing their own shipping. Maybe they'll hire their own mercenaries to guard the shipments too. Eventually they'll replace the government. United States of Amazon. We won't even have to change all our monogrammed stuff.
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This is not as true as you are being led to believe. The media in general looks for extreme opinions to make news, so they'll find the rare person who believes this, and then write as if it's a majority belief.
I experienced this first hand - I watched a journalist interview tons of people, most had centrist opinions, then the finally found the person with the extreme opinion - and that was what aired that night (I specially made a point of watching).
The partisan divide is real, but what's not obvious is that it's being created by media who is desperate for attention, because that's how they get paid. They'll tell Democrats look at those horrible Republicans, and post stories of Republicans behaving badly, then the media on the other side will do it too (not as much - most media outlets are liberal leaning).
Democrats don't seem to realize they are being manipulated by stories featuring the worst that media can find, and they think that it's representative of people as a whole, so they'll start saying really nasty things - which is just more fodder for media to publish.
I wish they would make it illegal to post a minority opinion without clearly saying that it's a minority.
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#487Kind of related : America Is Falling Apart at the Seams https://www.nytimes.com/2022/01/13/opinion/america-falling-a... A loss of civic sense and cultural criminality are incredibly hard to weed out of a population, once it has taken root. I worry that the a mix of pessimism and a loss of civic sense is sending non-elite America into a death spiral. Opponents of return-to-normalcy claim that these are temporary and a…
There’s no stuffing the genie back in the bottle now. We’re going to be paying the price for the corporate excess of the 90s, 2000s and 2010s for the next few decades in the form of climate change, disinformation, authoritarianism and the ensuing civil unrest. Thanks to the combination of the last three we will continue to be unable to muster a coherent response to any problem going forward.
Maybe we can have some good times again eventually, but the next decade or two are going to be rough.
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#488Re: Train burglaries in LA
#489Earlier quoted context omitted.
> They are looking at 20 years if they get caught: 18 U.S. Code section 1991 likely not, see https://www.popehat.com/2013/02/05/crime-whale-sushi-sentenc...
It leaves out the important information, what does whale sushi taste like. Interesting to know, though these inconsistencies between cases, and time seem rife for popularity and crony "justice". We like group X so they get 6 months we hate group Y so 20 years for them. There is a reason I became a programmer not a lawyer. Deterministic code is easier than subjective rulings at least for me.
The sentencing guidelines I mentioned seems specifically designed to mitigate this issue?
>We like group X so they get 6 months we hate group Y so 20 years for them. There is a reason I became a programmer not a lawyer. Deterministic code is easier than subjective rulings at least for me.
The sentencing guidelines seem pretty deterministic to me. There's a bunch of factors. The factors add up to a certain amount of points, and the amount of points determines your sentence to within a fairly narrow band. It's certainly not the "6 months for one group and 20 years for another group" that you talk about.
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#490Kind of related : America Is Falling Apart at the Seams https://www.nytimes.com/2022/01/13/opinion/america-falling-a... A loss of civic sense and cultural criminality are incredibly hard to weed out of a population, once it has taken root. I worry that the a mix of pessimism and a loss of civic sense is sending non-elite America into a death spiral. Opponents of return-to-normalcy claim that these are temporary and a…
I wonder how much of this correlates with the drop in religious participation. Religion, for better or worse, was a useful tool for stigmatizing bad behavior and incentivizing good behavior