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Anti-iPhone iPhone game makes it past Apple's review process

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Re: Anti-iPhone iPhone game makes it past Apple's review process

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post #54

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> It seeks to protect users (and their children) from malware, pornography and offence (and protect Apple from bad publicity and legal action by selling such things to its users). Do people really still buy this line? If they're trying to protect users and their children from "malware, pornography and offence," shouldn't they be blocking those things in the iPhone web browser as well? And what about on the Mac? All t…

Apple doesn't sell Web sites through Safari. It does sell apps through the App Store. There's quite a bit of difference in responsibility when money changes hands.

> Apple doesn't sell Web sites through Safari. It does sell apps through the App Store.

> There's quite a bit of difference in responsibility when money changes hands.

So if apps are free, it should be OK, right? Because there's no implied responsibility.

Re: Anti-iPhone iPhone game makes it past Apple's review process

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post #67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> It seeks to protect users (and their children) from malware, pornography and offence (and protect Apple from bad publicity and legal action by selling such things to its users). Do people really still buy this line? If they're trying to protect users and their children from "malware, pornography and offence," shouldn't they be blocking those things in the iPhone web browser as well? And what about on the Mac? All t…

The Mac is different due to: 1) Legacy 2) Professional requirements: huge apps with massive libraries etc However, the Mac App Store does have similar rules and if you stick to only installing software through the App Store you will have a much safer computing environment. Once the next round of sandboxing is added to the Mac it will be very similar to iOS.

> if you stick to only installing software through the App Store you will have a much safer computing environment.

I don't think the safety has ever been an issue with Mac apps. And there are plenty of ways to attack an iPhone, including via the App Store - just look at this story. All Apple's policies do are allow it to ban apps that aren't in its best interest and give its users a false sense of security.

Re: Anti-iPhone iPhone game makes it past Apple's review process

#83
post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> It seeks to protect users (and their children) from malware, pornography and offence (and protect Apple from bad publicity and legal action by selling such things to its users). Do people really still buy this line? If they're trying to protect users and their children from "malware, pornography and offence," shouldn't they be blocking those things in the iPhone web browser as well? And what about on the Mac? All t…

Do people really still buy this line? What line? Why else would they do it? The control that they over the iOS platform has provided the first truly safe computing environment. This is, in my opinion, more important to its long-term success than the innovative user interface. This is the part that other companies have so-far failed to copy. Apple don't seek control for it's own sake—it's a lot of work and very expens…

> What line? Why else would they do it?

To line their own coffers, of course. By banning apps that the majority of people don't mind (see: Google Voice unbanned), they're able to increase their own profits.

This is much like the difference between the US and PRC governments. The latter is able to optimize its economy to a much greater degree than the former, thanks to its top-down control. But at what price?

Re: Anti-iPhone iPhone game makes it past Apple's review process

#85
post #18

I'm not surprised that this got through as it is more likely to offend Apple than a user. Apple's control of the App Store is not without good reason. It seeks to protect users (and their children) from malware, pornography and offence (and protect Apple from bad publicity and legal action by selling such things to its users). While an overzealous employee might take it onto themselves to try to protect Apple from cr…

Well Apple has now removed the app from the store. What's the good reason for that you'd like to share with us?

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Re: Anti-iPhone iPhone game makes it past Apple's review process

#86
post #18

I'm not surprised that this got through as it is more likely to offend Apple than a user. Apple's control of the App Store is not without good reason. It seeks to protect users (and their children) from malware, pornography and offence (and protect Apple from bad publicity and legal action by selling such things to its users). While an overzealous employee might take it onto themselves to try to protect Apple from cr…

Well Apple has now removed the app from the store. What's the good reason for that you'd like to share with us?

  15.2 Apps that depict violence or abuse of children will be rejected 

  16.1 Apps that present excessively objectionable or crude content will be rejected 

Seems fairynuff to me.

Re: Anti-iPhone iPhone game makes it past Apple's review process

#87
post #15

One big point - Apple supports it's products longer than the rest of the industry, thus they don't end up in landfills as quickly. For example: - The original iPhone was released in June of 2007, and had the newest iOS (3.x) available until the release of iOS 4 in June 2010. - The iPhone 3GS was released in June of 2009, and is still getting OS updates, even to iOS 5 released later this year. How many Android phones…

Yup.. I bought the orig iPhone in 2007 and the iPhone 5 in 2010. Missed out on gps, but otherwise never skipped a beat.

Re: Anti-iPhone iPhone game makes it past Apple's review process

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post #15

One big point - Apple supports it's products longer than the rest of the industry, thus they don't end up in landfills as quickly. For example: - The original iPhone was released in June of 2007, and had the newest iOS (3.x) available until the release of iOS 4 in June 2010. - The iPhone 3GS was released in June of 2009, and is still getting OS updates, even to iOS 5 released later this year. How many Android phones…

From your own examples: - original iPhone supported for less than 3 years - 3GS supported for ~2 years As much as one likes Apple, this is not something that I would call "long term support".

> As much as one likes Apple, this is not something that I would call "long term support".

Then you've never owned a smartphone before? If you can find a pre (or even post) iPhone smartphone that gets updates for 3 years+, I would love to see it.

Re: Anti-iPhone iPhone game makes it past Apple's review process

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post #60

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Didn’t someone run the numbers and find that the number of suicides / head at Foxconn was significantly lower than the number of suicides / head for the general population in that region?

IIRC, it was something like 20 suicides in the last year, with Foxconn employing 300,000-400,000 people at the facility. According to wikipedia( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_suicide_ra... ), the average total number of suicides per 100,000 in China is around 6.6. So you get, depending on the actual number of workers, either the national average for China, or slightly below it.

We should really be comparing the Foxconn suicide rate with the suicide rate of employed people in the surrounding area. I suspect that the currently unemployed may up a decent part of the general population suicide rate.

Re: Anti-iPhone iPhone game makes it past Apple's review process

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From your own examples: - original iPhone supported for less than 3 years - 3GS supported for ~2 years As much as one likes Apple, this is not something that I would call "long term support".

> As much as one likes Apple, this is not something that I would call "long term support". Then you've never owned a smartphone before? If you can find a pre (or even post) iPhone smartphone that gets updates for 3 years+, I would love to see it.

Saying that you're no worse than everybody else is not the same as saying you're worth applauding.

If you've only worked with phones, you might have an inflated view of what "Long Term" means. The servers here, for example, run for 5 years between reboots. http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/today/top.avg.html

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