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The enigmatic Portuguese R (2013)

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Re: The enigmatic Portuguese R (2013)

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Scottish people can pronounce the same sound! When you say "Loch Ness" with a very thick Scottish accent, the "ch" in loch is quite close to it. Also the sound is quite common in other languages: "roi" in French, "reisen" in German, ... Even some Spanish dialects like Galego have the same r. Only Castilian/normal Spanish doesn't have it. OTOH, just ask a Brazilian to pronounce simply "the". The "th" phoneme is quite…

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Re: The enigmatic Portuguese R (2013)

#22
My name is Rodrigo and I work remotely for an american company with only American teammates. When I say my name I pronounce the way Americans would pronounce it to simplify communication, but it always feels a little phony. Like I am making up a nickname that’s actually not mine to a new group.

Not anything that bothers me, just a curiosity of global remote work and our R.

Re: The enigmatic Portuguese R (2013)

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Scottish people can pronounce the same sound! When you say "Loch Ness" with a very thick Scottish accent, the "ch" in loch is quite close to it. Also the sound is quite common in other languages: "roi" in French, "reisen" in German, ... Even some Spanish dialects like Galego have the same r. Only Castilian/normal Spanish doesn't have it. OTOH, just ask a Brazilian to pronounce simply "the". The "th" phoneme is quite…

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I think this is very much standard all over Brazil. It's a common pattern in a large amount of english words, I think most or all of us can pronounce it correctly, but we don't because it'd be harder say and recognize while trying to pronounce it like an american almost sounds like pedantry here.

Re: The enigmatic Portuguese R (2013)

#25

I can never get over the way my Brazilian wife pronounces the currency. Singular - hey-ow Plural - hey-I. They're spelled real and reals respectively.

real and reais, not reals.

hey-I on the plural doesn't make a lot of sense to me, you are probably not hearing something she is saying.

Re: The enigmatic Portuguese R (2013)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Normally Brazilians have issues with the german R as spoken in the North of Germany. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gNU6ZLaZ7Z8

It’s just a regular “r” for us pt-pt natives... :)

Yes in Portugal, I tend to see a lot of similarities with German by the spoken Portuguese.. Like "Ei" sounding like "Ai" and "P" sounding like "B" in the beginning of sentences.

Re: The enigmatic Portuguese R (2013)

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Just a heads up for non-portuguese speakers: brazilian portuguese and european portuguese can differ quite extremely in pronunciation. Then there's also african portuguese pronunciations, though to my ear those tend to be closer to the european.

The article is written from a brazilian standpoint, so keep that in mind when comparing with your own experiences of the language.

Re: The enigmatic Portuguese R (2013)

#28

Portuguese is very rich in terms of phonemes compared to other western languages. Brazil is a very big country with many different accents, but when we talk about popular artists and TV, there are some which are popular in the whole country. This makes the people well aware of how people from different parts of the country speak and, naturally, people have developed a "common way to speak" that can sound "neutral" to…

Normally Brazilians have issues with the german R as spoken in the North of Germany. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gNU6ZLaZ7Z8

Yup, I'm a brazilian living in northern germany, and one of the words I struggle with the most is "rechts". It's just really difficult to get that 'r' sound right.

Re: The enigmatic Portuguese R (2013)

#29

I can never get over the way my Brazilian wife pronounces the currency. Singular - hey-ow Plural - hey-I. They're spelled real and reals respectively.

The correct spelling for the plural form is 'reais' (the 'l' from the singular form 'real' becomes an 'i').

I think I've never heard anybody pronounce 'reais' without the sound of s at the end, are you sure she doesn't say it? It's probably something like hey-eyes (hey-eye-shh for cariocas)

Re: The enigmatic Portuguese R (2013)

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Scottish people can pronounce the same sound! When you say "Loch Ness" with a very thick Scottish accent, the "ch" in loch is quite close to it. Also the sound is quite common in other languages: "roi" in French, "reisen" in German, ... Even some Spanish dialects like Galego have the same r. Only Castilian/normal Spanish doesn't have it. OTOH, just ask a Brazilian to pronounce simply "the". The "th" phoneme is quite…

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