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Novak Djokovic's Visa Cancelled by Australian Minister for Immigration

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Djokovic has demonstrated recklessness in dealing with COVID precautions. Read his Instagram statement: https://www.instagram.com/p/CYnO7cDqbdj/

Would you paste it or quote from it for those of us who won't login to Instagram?

I don't think you need to be logged in to instagram to view that link, I didn't.

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Now the path to the finals has cleared right up for Michael Ymer. Go Sweden!

Who is going to respect such a vicory when the current champion has been blocked from participating?

If a champion did steroids and were disqualified, it would be the same. A victory is a victory.

Its not like he is some hapless victim. He knew the rules, he had enough time to get vaccinated but is choosing (and relishing) his anti vaccine posture.

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This distraction has worked marvellously. No time to cover the lack of food and tests in the supermarkets or any strategy other than sacrificing the weak for the sake of 'the economy'. Regarding immigration rules - it seems that if you're an au pair for the right family, incorrect entry forms can be fixed with a direct call to the minister.

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There’s no vaccination requirement for entering the UK.

Really? Would you happen to have any relevant link? Was this a recent change or has this always been the case?

The UK has never required a vaccine to enter. The only difference is that non-vaccinated individuals need to quarantine on arrival.

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It will not be known as the tournament where the best player wins, but as the tournament where the best vaccinated player wins, because the best player was not allowed to participate. It's not a top league tournament anymore, when you don't have all the best player, but only those that are allowed by government criteria.

I'm pretty sure they are many criterias that would prevent a top player from participating. It's the best player who is not injured, has not taken any drug, is not sick, accepts all the rules of the ATP, including all the anti doping procedures all year long which are pretty invasive, who can get a visa to come to the tournament, etc etc.

Yes, but this one had no good basis. He is in the highest risk group for myocarditis and he already had Covid in June. Omicron is dominant now. Vaccine efficacy against it is low. What is the actual reason to mandate that he must be vaccinated?

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Is omnicron worse than a common cold? Maybe the colloquial you always get a new virus with every common cold is also true of covid. If vaccinated people are spreading covid (and maybe more so since their symptoms are probably so minor), what good does banning an athlete in great health do? All it proves is this is about politics and power, not health. At this point all those who go along with this charade, insisting…

If you catch Omicron, and are double vaccinated, which is almost the best case, then you're still much more likely to die from COVID than the flu.

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9/10 Australians think this guy is a grade-A dickhead. It would have been politically unpalatable for him to have been allowed to stay.

I'm a Serbian who used to be a fan of Djokovic in spite of the fact that I'm not big into tennis, but after losing a family member to Covid seeing him deciding to die on the anti-vax hill broke my heart and I don't want anything to do with him.

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I don't think that national interests really mattered anytime in any country. That is just a tool to keep power. Maybe it's important for some politician, but focusing on power grab is way more beneficial at the top.

its a sure way to sell oneself to public but yeah, types of people that manage to get and stay in top politics don't give a damn about this

He actually flew back to Sydney to visit his kids during the middle of a lockdown when people couldn't visit dying relatives, because it was fathers day!

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David Crowe writes in The Age https://archive.ph/Ohx6d The political cost of letting Djokovic stay was too high for Morrison Australians have been barred from visiting a dying parent in hospital, blocked from seeing a new grandchild and forbidden from having a wedding. Should they accept that a tennis star gets the leeway they were denied? Angering those Australians would have been a huge danger for Morrison when he…

> The political cost of letting Djokovic stay was too high for Morrison > Australians have been barred from visiting a dying parent in hospital, blocked from seeing a new grandchild and forbidden from having a wedding. Should they accept that a tennis star gets the leeway they were denied? This is bizarre logic. "I got screwed, so someone else should get screwed too!" He got the exemption. It was challenged in court.…

> This is bizarre logic. "I got screwed, so someone else should get screwed too!"

Or, I had to follow the law, so everyone else should too. I'm getting upset if the law is only for the simple people like me, but not for big sports stars and other hotshots.

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David Crowe writes in The Age https://archive.ph/Ohx6d The political cost of letting Djokovic stay was too high for Morrison Australians have been barred from visiting a dying parent in hospital, blocked from seeing a new grandchild and forbidden from having a wedding. Should they accept that a tennis star gets the leeway they were denied? Angering those Australians would have been a huge danger for Morrison when he…

> Australians have been barred from visiting a dying parent in hospital, blocked from seeing a new grandchild and forbidden from having a wedding. Should they accept that a tennis star gets the leeway they were denied? No, they should not have accepted being barred perhaps. When you are oppressed just insisting no other one is treated justfully (the way the court decided in accordance with the law) is not a morally r…

> No, they should not have accepted being barred.

But what if most accepted those limitations, and while personally a disaster, found it on the other hand right to follow common sense and obey rules applying to everyone for the greater cause of society? Rules applying to everyone the same is one of the basic foundations of a just society...

> Also expelling a person who has already got in the country physically and attended a courts makes no sense from the epidemiological point of view - he has already brought the virus

No matter what you argue beyond, the epidemiological aspect is now not really the point here anymore. He faked stuff for entry one or the other way (I think it is even more likely he wasn't positive at all, but that the second test was just created so he counts as recovered, which was the requirement to get in if not vaccinated..) - so its good to see consequences on that.

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