Live data from Hacker News

The impact of sexual abuse on female development: a longitudinal study

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

241–250 of 380 posts

Re: The impact of sexual abuse on female development: a longitudinal study

#241
post #219

[trigger warning] I'm a woman. I was physically and sexually abused by my father as a child. The impact it's had on me is painful to describe. I was working as a software engineer in the tech industry and was constantly experiencing PTSD symptoms being surrounded by men -- though by no fault of their own, it was totally because of what my father did to me. It's been a frustrating journey. The sexual abuse happened to…

I was drugged unconscious by a gay man in my early 20s, and "thankfully" I became conscious at the beginning of whatever he had planned; it took me months to even realize something had happened due to whatever drug he dosed me with fucked up my memory. I had used MDMA recreationally years later and I knew that had helped my PTSD some, but it was only when I did a session years later in a therapeutic setting, just mys…

I just listened to a podcast where they were talking about this. And that's pretty much what they said.

Basically MDMA and/or psilocybin allow you to essentially disassociate from the the emotions of the event. You're able to talk about and work through the events without also being overwhelmed by the emotions of the event.

But yeah, it's not just popping shrooms or pills and you're magically healed. It's about being in that setting with someone who can therapeutically work you through the trauma. You still need to do the work, but MDMA and/or psilocybin can greatly facilitate the process.

Re: The impact of sexual abuse on female development: a longitudinal study

#242

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Parental testing should be mandatory at birth perhaps for these issues. Or at least if someone is going to go claim child support.

The father - and should be - is the one who raises the child. It is for this reason that (in the US) "father" of record is always the husband unless it is explicitly questioned and investigated. Assuming we're talking about a happy family with two eager parents, what is helped by investigating the child's genetic "paternity," when the father is right there holding the baby?

[deleted]

Re: The impact of sexual abuse on female development: a longitudinal study

#243
post #150

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The whole premise of the workplace is to not treat people as humans, but as coworkers. Sex is one of the most essentially human things. "Professional" behaviour excludes sex. So "treat people as humans" is decisively not clear advice for cases like this.

The way you are expected to interact with humans in the VAST MAJORITY of situations is closer to how you are expected to interact with coworkers in a professional setting, than to a speed dating event or a crowded bar after midnight. We're not having orgies in the street. In modern society you are expected to treat humans in the vast majority of situations without "sex" being relevant to the topic of discussion, whet…

False dichotomies galore.

First of all, the "VAST MAJORITY" of human interactions are irrelevant (cashier, bank clerk, passing people on the street). Given how much time you spend with coworkers, they'd qualify as friends, or acquaintances at least.

Also, there's a large gap between "professional behaviour" and "orgies in the street" or "sexual harassment". For example, I don't mind talking about menstruation or condoms with friends (who I'm not having sex with, nor have/would I ever try) but I don't think those would be appropriate topics for most workplace situations.

Re: The impact of sexual abuse on female development: a longitudinal study

#244
post #235

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That system exists. They are called bench trials. No defendant is forced us submit to a jury. The defendant doesn't want a jury because he thinks that it will "sock it to him" on a Saturday. He wants a jury because he thinks that his fellow citizens will see that the government is improperly accusing him of a crime. The defendant has the right to a trial by people who are not part of the same government that has accu…

Among the small share and number of federal defendants who went to trial in fiscal 2018, those who opted for a bench trial – that is, one in which the verdict is handed down by a judge – fared better than those who opted for a jury trial. Around four-in-ten defendants who faced a bench trial (38%) were acquitted, compared with just 14% of those who faced a jury trial. https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2019/06/11/…

I have to imagine the defendants who opt for a bench trial have reasons for making that choice that don't necessarily apply to the defendants who choose a jury trial.

Re: The impact of sexual abuse on female development: a longitudinal study

#245
post #182

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> In his experience, amongst pregnant teenagers (17 and younger) about 10% were pregnant by their own fathers/brothers. I refuse to believe that. I mean, yeah, the man had direct contact with such cases and probably had been in the field for tens of years while I'm just a computer programmer but I still refuse to believe it.

I get what you're getting at, that we should trust the experts who have professional experience with a problem, but on the other hand, he didn't say how he arrived at that 10% number, and we don't know if his opinion is an outlier among medical doctors. And we do know, because we're witnessing it, that his statement is being amplified by non-medical professionals for the precise reason that it would be urgent and sho…

> he didn't say how he arrived at that 10% number

With the recent popularity of genetic testing services for health and ancestry tracing, I would think this would be easy to tease out of the data. Of course not many people will expect to see as part of the report that their father is also their grandfather or uncle; I wonder how these services handle that?

Re: The impact of sexual abuse on female development: a longitudinal study

#246

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Parental testing should be mandatory at birth perhaps for these issues. Or at least if someone is going to go claim child support.

The father - and should be - is the one who raises the child. It is for this reason that (in the US) "father" of record is always the husband unless it is explicitly questioned and investigated. Assuming we're talking about a happy family with two eager parents, what is helped by investigating the child's genetic "paternity," when the father is right there holding the baby?

> The father [is] - and should be - the one who raises the child.

We’re implicitly dealing with two senses of the word “father” in this context which makes most of your sentences seem both commonsensical and ambigious.

Re: The impact of sexual abuse on female development: a longitudinal study

#247
post #150

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The whole premise of the workplace is to not treat people as humans, but as coworkers. Sex is one of the most essentially human things. "Professional" behaviour excludes sex. So "treat people as humans" is decisively not clear advice for cases like this.

The way you are expected to interact with humans in the VAST MAJORITY of situations is closer to how you are expected to interact with coworkers in a professional setting, than to a speed dating event or a crowded bar after midnight. We're not having orgies in the street. In modern society you are expected to treat humans in the vast majority of situations without "sex" being relevant to the topic of discussion, whet…

Your life must be quite different from mine. My casual conversations with my friend group - who are 20s and 30s liberals, mixed gender - are not office appropriate. I would certainly not bring any of the regular political debates into work either.

The amount of sex related conversation in my friend group is, from my perspective, normal but entirely inappropriate for work. Even my female barber talks about her sex life during haircuts.

At work I keep my sarcasm set to near zero, avoid politics, religion, and sex, and generally keep a narrow focus. Work is an artificial environment, but my coworkers don't get to choose me. It is on me to behave in a way that is beyond reproach.

Re: The impact of sexual abuse on female development: a longitudinal study

#248

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Very seriously: no, that’s not an aberration. Sexual abuse is at a massive scale and the abuse is highly normalized. America still has child brides legalized such that there are services to look up states to travel to in order to perform a child marriage by age, documentation requirements, fees, etc.

What exactly are you talking about? This sounds an awful lot like what some Roma people practice here in the bad parts of Europe

I mean quite seriously that putting children in romantic, intimate relationships is legal in America. Only 6 states have banned marrying children. I’m emphasizing this because I want to point out the degree in which sexual violence is normalized, to the point where 5 percent of women in a study who believed they weren’t sexually abused might realize they have been and be dropped out of the study is totally within the bounds of reality.

Re: The impact of sexual abuse on female development: a longitudinal study

#249

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think the whole concept of random citizens being pulled in for jury duty is idiotic. Jurors should be professionals who are trained in being jurors: who, for one thing, thoroughly understand topics in critical reasoning such as fallacies, and cognitive biases. They should be properly paid, and so are not sitting there on a Saturday morning, socking it to the defendant out of spite for being dragged out of their reg…

Norway just removed jury duty, and if I remembered correctly the last case that had jury duty the actual judges put the jury verdict aside as they all agreed the jury had misunderstood the law. Of course judges are not always good as well. In the US they are often elected by a blood thirsty population. If they are not elected that has other issues in that the will of the people is not held by the judges.

Why was the jury required to understand the law? That's not a reasonable expectation for random people off the street.

In the US, juries typically decide questions of _fact_ that are not already agreed upon by both parties (i.e. are in dispute). Judges handle questions of law.

Re: The impact of sexual abuse on female development: a longitudinal study

#250
post #175

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There is a similar social issue waiting to blow up regarding genetic screening. Estimates are that 10-15% of children are from infidelity

I believe that's the rate for people who seek out a paternity test, which is to say are already suspicious. The overall population nonpaternity rate is about 3%[1]. As an aside, obstetricians often notice nonpaternity because of the child having an impossible blood type for the putative father. The ones I've spoken to prefer to stay silent when they notice it. [1] https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/19320216/

Thank you for the correction.
Post reply on HN