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Exploring System76's New Rust Based Desktop Environment

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Re: Exploring System76's New Rust Based Desktop Environment

#31

Original Nautilus and early GNOME developer here. I am very out of touch with what is current, so excuse some possibly ignorant questions. How is this a Rust-based environment if it is based on GTK? I assume GTK is still essentially the C-based GTK we used with some improvements. Why is this called Rust-based? I’ll do some more research but would like to get some insight from more knowledgeable sources.

GTK is just a library, you can use it from any language it has bindings for.

Re: Exploring System76's New Rust Based Desktop Environment

#32
Nice, exactly what Linux needs the most - another desktop environment!

Sarcasm aside, it does look pretty good. But between indistinguishable window title bars and yet another settings app (wanna bet it will miss some config so users wil still need to run one of the others?), I think I'll pass. As far as I'm concerned this problem was solved ages ago, so I simply don't understand why the designers keep mucking with it. Maybe I'm just getting old. :-/

Re: Exploring System76's New Rust Based Desktop Environment

#33
I honestly don't quite understand what System76s intentions with COSMIC are. To me it feels like a regression from the previous gnome and i've kicked their plugins to get a regular gnome back.

It just... Doesn't do anything my custom openbox or i3 setups in the past didn't do (imo better). Nor is it better at being gnome than gnome.

And now that i'm getting old and gotten used to stock gnome it just seems like it makes me change my workflow again for no good reason.

Re: Exploring System76's New Rust Based Desktop Environment

#34
post #14

I think I would've tried Pop!_OS by now if not for the name - I know it is totally irrational, but having a ! in there really pisses me off.

My coworkers joke about me using a OS called Pop. I don't mind it, I even like it, but I have to admit that Pop it's a very ugly name.

the mere fact that you call it pop tells me you're not ready

Re: Exploring System76's New Rust Based Desktop Environment

#35

Original Nautilus and early GNOME developer here. I am very out of touch with what is current, so excuse some possibly ignorant questions. How is this a Rust-based environment if it is based on GTK? I assume GTK is still essentially the C-based GTK we used with some improvements. Why is this called Rust-based? I’ll do some more research but would like to get some insight from more knowledgeable sources.

The answer seems to be that the applications [1] are written in Rust using gtk-rs [2] (Rust-bindings for the GTK libs).

[1]: https://github.com/orgs/pop-os/repositories?q=&type=source&l...

[2]: https://gtk-rs.org/

Re: Exploring System76's New Rust Based Desktop Environment

#36
post #19

GTK4? It seems like Rust based UI toolkit is still missing. I like the idea of using Rust for the DE, but personally I'd stick with KDE.

ya, I wanted to ask the same question. there doesn't seem to be a mature gui lib for rust yet. what is this desktop based on?

Re: Exploring System76's New Rust Based Desktop Environment

#37

Original Nautilus and early GNOME developer here. I am very out of touch with what is current, so excuse some possibly ignorant questions. How is this a Rust-based environment if it is based on GTK? I assume GTK is still essentially the C-based GTK we used with some improvements. Why is this called Rust-based? I’ll do some more research but would like to get some insight from more knowledgeable sources.

Also GTK4 means they are still at the mercy of GNOME which changes APIs often and without consideration for third parties.

Wasn't the whole point of the project to emancipate themselves from GNOME? If they rely on GTK they will fail.

Re: Exploring System76's New Rust Based Desktop Environment

#38
I can see 2022 being another almost Year Of Linux on the Desktop. I wonder what dirty tricks big companies will pull, like Microsoft did when netbooks became a threat.

(Searching around, I see a lot of people don't get it, they say that Year of Linux on the Desktop has happened. It hasn't yet and some think it never will.)

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