I don't like Rust, but between Gnome's JS abortion lagfest and Rust, please, use the second.
Would you rate KDE (Plasma) better?
Yes. Not only does it run better, but it's also a better managed project.
Exploring System76's New Rust Based Desktop Environment
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#22I don't like Rust, but between Gnome's JS abortion lagfest and Rust, please, use the second.
Would you rate KDE (Plasma) better?
I use Plasma. Of all the DEs it is probably the most buggy, but I continue to use it because it is the only one that doesn't force an ideology onto me. It is so insanely configurable that you can make it whatever you want.
It's also still mouse-first, and has not been redesigning itself for touch screens.
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#24After unity, I tried couple of DEs but then forced myself to stay with Gnome because I wanted to stop endless tinkering and get work done. I tried it for half a year and then switched to Sway, a tiling window manager.
Sway has little to no footprint. I have configured my system the way I like it. Now I do minor tweaks sometimes but nothing major. My entire configuration is in a single file! I am not going back to DEs ever.
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#25Earlier quoted context omitted.
Would you rate KDE (Plasma) better?
I use Plasma. Of all the DEs it is probably the most buggy, but I continue to use it because it is the only one that doesn't force an ideology onto me. It is so insanely configurable that you can make it whatever you want. It's also still mouse-first, and has not been redesigning itself for touch screens.
Not sure if you have tried recent versions of Plasma but they have made a great deal of progress on all fronts including fixing a lot of bugs. I don't encounter any on day to day basis on Tumbleweed which gets you the latest version.
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#26After unity, I tried couple of DEs but then forced myself to stay with Gnome because I wanted to stop endless tinkering and get work done. I tried it for half a year and then switched to Sway, a tiling window manager. Sway has little to no footprint. I have configured my system the way I like it. Now I do minor tweaks sometimes but nothing major. My entire configuration is in a single file! I am not going back to DEs…
You don't need a tiling window manager to get everything in a single config file. Fluxbox has historically been great at this, while still being extremely light on resources.
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#28Looks like the Android 4.0 UI with a bit of neumorphism thrown in. I really don’t like it. I hope that’s not the style they end up with. The GTK window conveys the same information more clearly (and it looks better).
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#29Original Nautilus and early GNOME developer here. I am very out of touch with what is current, so excuse some possibly ignorant questions. How is this a Rust-based environment if it is based on GTK? I assume GTK is still essentially the C-based GTK we used with some improvements.
Why is this called Rust-based? I’ll do some more research but would like to get some insight from more knowledgeable sources.
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#30"There’s no visible distinction between the window title bar and the body of the window." Strikes me as a bit amusing, as this was the case also in early versions of GNOME 3. I believe it was abandoned because non-GNOME apps (or more specifically, ones that didn't follow the GNOME HIG) had a visible distinction and greater consistency was desired. Changing GNOME's own look was the way to do so.
Or between what's clickable and what isn't. (New dark pattern: popups which have an X box to dismiss them being harder to dismiss. First, the box around the X disappeared. Then, the X moves to different places in the box. (Bing does this for their house ads.) Then, the active portion of the X shrinks to make it harder to hit.)
Also in the earlier versions, the area you could click to move a window around was significantly larger. Down into the menu bar and toolbars.
That pattern did get scaled back. A few GNOME apps still do it, but most only allow it on the title bar now.