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The impact of sexual abuse on female development: a longitudinal study

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Re: The impact of sexual abuse on female development: a longitudinal study

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Can testify it does a number on male development too

same. My abuse was very early, which it tends to be for men. My abusers weren't removed from my life until I was six, and even then were brought back over and over again. I am 40. I became a successful software developer. Then I finally couldn't ignore what happened to me. It was a brutal 3 years of therapy and trying to find my way out of the emotional pain I felt.

I am just now getting my career on track, but I am essentially starting from square one again. As a programmer your primary tool is your brain, and when it simply isn't working...

What, to me, is positive, is that we are talking about it. Just being aware of this pain and not replicating it is what is needed to shift the world.

Re: The impact of sexual abuse on female development: a longitudinal study

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I think I remember reading (maybe in the book WEIRD) that in Western societies, as the "rule of law" spread and as society became more individualistic overall, murders shifted from being between strangers or weak acquaintances (ie a dispute, a robbery, etc) to being intrafamily (ie killing a spouse, parent, etc). Ie 200 years ago, it was unheard of, but now most murders are like that. Abuse might be different, I coul…

Murders we tracked, or murders committed? Without the rule of law, perhaps scores were settled in ad hoc village or clan courts without reporting to the outside world.

Re: The impact of sexual abuse on female development: a longitudinal study

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Yep. Gift that keeps on giving. Was gotten to myself as a kid and 50+ years on it’s still hard to read this kind of thing

My freshman biology teacher was extradited to Australia and jailed for this, although I did not suffer any abuse. The church knew of his behavior and moved him around rather than dealing with the problem, and this definitely clouds my view of the Catholic church. Given the topic, their entire organization is a patriarchy. It's hard for me to read because it is difficult to picture these girls being abused, knowing th…

All institutions protect themselves first. Jehovah's witnesses have strict rules that forbid warning a new congregation if an abuser gets thrown out and moves onto another. They will not contact authorities nor will they warn anyone else as they ship them off to another region for a fresh start.

It was/is an abusers' paradise. All numbers of criminals mask themselves in piety because it is easy to gain acceptance because the existing adherents are literally mandated to accept/forgive all new people who are "seeking the truth."

I have seen the same thing happen in numerous organizations. The Catholic church is the tip of the ice berg.

Re: The impact of sexual abuse on female development: a longitudinal study

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Because a doctor's duty is to their patient, not the justice system. Breaking up the family might not be the best thing for the pregnant girl or newborn. I'm not saying they actively cover up abuse, but doctors know not to ask questions they don't want answered. Blanket genetic testing determinative to determine parentage is very dangerous knowledge.

Aren't doctors mandatory reporters in the United States?

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Re: The impact of sexual abuse on female development: a longitudinal study

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Because a doctor's duty is to their patient, not the justice system. Breaking up the family might not be the best thing for the pregnant girl or newborn. I'm not saying they actively cover up abuse, but doctors know not to ask questions they don't want answered. Blanket genetic testing determinative to determine parentage is very dangerous knowledge.

Aren't doctors mandatory reporters in the United States?

Mandatory reporters, not mandatory investigators. If they have no knowledge of the abuse they have nothing to report. If the girl says that her boyfriend is the father, the doctor isn't going to run extra tests just to prove her wrong. There is no medical advantage to the patient in such testing. Doctors are not cops.

Re: The impact of sexual abuse on female development: a longitudinal study

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Am I misunderstanding this, or is there a word missing from a key sentence in the abstract? "There was also a pattern of considerable within group variability." How does this get published with an obvious mistake in the abstract?

"Within group variability" is a term of art in statistics. Someone not well versed in the jargon would probably write the sentence as "There was also a pattern of considerable variability within the groups studied."

Re: The impact of sexual abuse on female development: a longitudinal study

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That whole comment was chilling AF

Chilling but also a little reassuring. If you are a victim, knowing that a large percentage of the population has also been abused can help recovery. It says that it is very possible to be a victim and go on to a normal life. Want something very chilling? First year criminal law lecture on rape. Professor says "We have about a hundred people in this room. None of you future lawyers have criminal records. Statisticall…

There is some evidence that the proportion for the men is a bit different. According to one study, it was about 6% of men. About 2/3rds of those men committed multiple rapes, ~6 each. Details here: https://yesmeansyesblog.wordpress.com/2009/11/12/meet-the-pr...

Intuitively, that makes sense. If people figure out how to get away with something, some of them are going to keep doing it. E.g., if I think about the people I knew in high school, most didn't shoplift, but there were a couple who did it a whole bunch.

Re: The impact of sexual abuse on female development: a longitudinal study

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Patriarchal civilizations only began to outcompete non-patriarchal ones with the relatively recent advent of grain agriculture. There were many hundreds of thousands of years where men were stronger physically and patriarchy wasn't dominant (I mean that some civilizations were patriarchal and others were non-patriarchal).

Always a fascinating Alt-History scenario to me: what if the patriarchal societies didn’t win out early on? How drastically different would history had become?

They didn't early on. They won out late and we are still very much steeped in it. The line was crossed during the "one true God" push where the sun god (single god) creator cults gained state-derived power.

Re: The impact of sexual abuse on female development: a longitudinal study

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Chilling but also a little reassuring. If you are a victim, knowing that a large percentage of the population has also been abused can help recovery. It says that it is very possible to be a victim and go on to a normal life. Want something very chilling? First year criminal law lecture on rape. Professor says "We have about a hundred people in this room. None of you future lawyers have criminal records. Statisticall…

While that story might be intimidating I can't help but think it's statistical nonsense and discredits the professors integrity. Starting from the assumption that general population numbers apply to a group of law students (I assume that he doesn't have statistics about rape among law students) on to the assumption that there is a 1 to 1 relationship between rape victims and rapists. I would assume there to be more v…

>> I would assume there to be more victims than offenders.

Why? Women who have been abused are often abused by more than one person.

>>just to make a point about unsolved rape.

She was making multiple points, several of which had nothing to do with rape. It was about criminality. Why we punish crimes the way we do. The strain on police/judicial resources. Diversionary programs. The prevalence of plea bargaining. and and and. A first year law lecture is a very nuanced thing.

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