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Re: Ask HN: Firefox connection problems after enabling DoH?

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Post by torstenvl »

progval wrote: post #358
torstenvl wrote: post #345

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, it's in the browser. Turn off all data collection and the bug disappears. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1749908#c10

lower in the linked thread: > Telemetry has nothing to do with this, it just happens to be one of the first services with H3 load balancer.

You... do understand that that's self-contradictory, right? It's impossible for both parts of that sentence to be true.

If telemetry really had "nothing to do with" the bug, then the fact that telemetry "just happens to be one of the first services with H3 load balancer" wouldn't trigger the bug.

Re: Ask HN: Firefox connection problems after enabling DoH?

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Post by ttctciyf »

Hitton wrote: post #226
ttctciyf wrote: post #60

Manual install on aging Ubuntu refused to load pages and pegged CPU. Manually reverted, and launching my older version (92!) demanded I either create a new profile or quit. This would have been a disaster except I tried it out on a spare profile in the first place, so I recommend this to anyone making a similar experiment. I haven't set DOH (!) that I can remember. Running through the initial ff setup a couple of tim…

>Manually reverted, and launching my older version (92!) demanded I either create a new profile or quit. use --allow-downgrade switch

Thanks for that info! Wonder why they don't just provide a "launch anyway and take the risk" option in the gui?

Re: Ask HN: Firefox connection problems after enabling DoH?

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Post by charcircuit »

torstenvl wrote: post #381
progval wrote: post #358

Earlier quoted context omitted.

lower in the linked thread: > Telemetry has nothing to do with this, it just happens to be one of the first services with H3 load balancer.

You... do understand that that's self-contradictory, right? It's impossible for both parts of that sentence to be true. If telemetry really had "nothing to do with" the bug, then the fact that telemetry "just happens to be one of the first services with H3 load balancer" wouldn't trigger the bug.

I think he means you that you couldn't eliminate the bug by disabling telemetry. It just will be triggered by something else later.

Re: Ask HN: Firefox connection problems after enabling DoH?

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Post by baud147258 »

baud147258 wrote: post #271
alexb_ wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It seems like it has nothing to do with the version, so it's not an update from Mozilla's end. Still bad though.

looking at the internal company chat, it seems linked to an update

I mean a Firefox update was pushed by the company on our computers this night and starting from this morning, users started complaining about issues

Re: Ask HN: Firefox connection problems after enabling DoH?

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Post by gsich »

CorrectHorseBat wrote: post #311
johnnywasagood wrote: post #297

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The goal is to fully control your environment and not to expecting some unexpected updates. User is the one who must choose update policy. If user is choosing to not update then it's their own problem and no manufacturer has the right to deside otherwise.

Automatic updates are a good default, you can always disable them if you don't want them.

In the past I would have agreed with you. Sadly there are "updates" which remove functionality.

Re: Ask HN: Firefox connection problems after enabling DoH?

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Post by torstenvl »

charcircuit wrote: post #383
torstenvl wrote: post #381

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You... do understand that that's self-contradictory, right? It's impossible for both parts of that sentence to be true. If telemetry really had "nothing to do with" the bug, then the fact that telemetry "just happens to be one of the first services with H3 load balancer" wouldn't trigger the bug.

I think he means you that you couldn't eliminate the bug by disabling telemetry. It just will be triggered by something else later.

Sure. But the thread is in reply to this post: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29918998

The question isn't whether "backend services" forms the conceptual essence of the problem - I think we all agree it doesn't.

The question is whether it "happens to be" triggered by backend services.

Re: Ask HN: Firefox connection problems after enabling DoH?

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Post by birdyrooster »

anhm wrote: post #256
birdyrooster wrote: post #92

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Not working for me.

closing all browser windows does not work. I had to `pkill firefox` and it works

Yeah I ended up just waiting 5 minutes and it started working again.
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