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Toxic culture is driving the great resignation

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Re: Toxic culture is driving the great resignation

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Aren't the same factors driving resignations always, not just during the so called Great Resignation?

But people being at home and able to distance themselves of the situation makes them realize how bad it is. When you are in the middle of the chaos, the day to day survival, the oppressive environment, to see others suffering the same that you, makes it hard to realize the situation. The pandemic has allowed many people to step back and look at their jobs, and they did not like what they saw.

True... However, in academia where I work, there are not many options right now. Despite sinking nearly 20 years into this and enjoying my work, I'm having second thoughts due to the toxicity of my colleagues.

Nice username, btw. I enjoy the prints of Mt. Fuji. Also had an opportunity to be on Mt. Fuji, partly inspired by his paintings.

Re: Toxic culture is driving the great resignation

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That is not real research. I'm disgusted that big names like mit stand behind buzzword-driven self-affirmative soft science bullshit publications like this.

Yes, but sometimes that's all you have to go on. Imagine you are a manger with high quit rates, what do you do? Say I've no idea what's causing this and won't until I see hard evidence, or, think about the article and wonder if any of these factors are affecting you and try to change them. Even if it's wrong it's a good onramp to thinking about your problems.

Re: Toxic culture is driving the great resignation

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> Our analysis found that the leading elements contributing to toxic cultures include failure to promote diversity, equity, and inclusion; workers feeling disrespected; and unethical behavior I don’t really believe these reasons or at least they don’t match what i’ve seen. I can only speak for FAANG: I think this is more compensation based than anything else. In an effort to level the playing field FAANGS establish l…

I'll never understand the American thirst for money for the sake of it. If HN comments are to be believed, top performer at your average FAANG easily earn $500k per year. At that point, aren't you well past the point where more money brings more happiness, even in high cost-of-living places? What's the point? Why not find a job that's fun and fulfilling?

> I'll never understand the American thirst for money for the sake of it.

I hope I don't come off as abrasive but I don't think you've had enough money if you think this is American or applicable only to a small subset of people.

Greed has driven people forever, in different systems of government, from communism, to fascism and capitalism. Leaders have always had (or had access to) a ton of capital to influence and control different aspects of their lives.

Also making a ton of money can be an instrument for good. There are a lot of wealthy folks that donate a lot of their money because they have an excess.

My current contributions are tiny, comparatively, but as my compensation increases, so do my charitable contributions.

Re: Toxic culture is driving the great resignation

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> Our analysis found that the leading elements contributing to toxic cultures include failure to promote diversity, equity, and inclusion; workers feeling disrespected; and unethical behavior I don’t really believe these reasons or at least they don’t match what i’ve seen. I can only speak for FAANG: I think this is more compensation based than anything else. In an effort to level the playing field FAANGS establish l…

I'll never understand the American thirst for money for the sake of it. If HN comments are to be believed, top performer at your average FAANG easily earn $500k per year. At that point, aren't you well past the point where more money brings more happiness, even in high cost-of-living places? What's the point? Why not find a job that's fun and fulfilling?

a lot of people are in a situation where they could do the same amount of work, most likely with better people and not have the culture i described above, for 30-50% more cash and more equity (at face value although it’s potential). this has nothing to do with america. you have to be really loving your job to turn down that kind of change. its not about having enough. it’s getting a LOT more for the small price of a few zoom calls

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I've always guessed this was a major factor, though I still think too-low pay is a factor in a lot of cases, especially industries where pay tends to be anchored to minimum wage. However: (a) This is public social media data, I guess? That seems like a noisy channel. (b) Some of their suggestions are really dumb, and all miss the point in my view. If my boss is an ass, sponsoring a social event and expecting that to…

Poor management practices, e.g. cancelling or changing shifts last minute, have real business value in terms of labour flexibility (for the employer), so in an employers' market, you can expect some businesses to take advantage of those practices to improve their bottom line.

The underlying shift, as I see it, is a scarcity of labour, combined with a bullishness of employee attitudes, leading to those poor practices being penalised where previously they had to be tolerated.

Re: Toxic culture is driving the great resignation

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> Our analysis found that the leading elements contributing to toxic cultures include failure to promote diversity, equity, and inclusion; workers feeling disrespected; and unethical behavior I don’t really believe these reasons or at least they don’t match what i’ve seen. I can only speak for FAANG: I think this is more compensation based than anything else. In an effort to level the playing field FAANGS establish l…

I'll never understand the American thirst for money for the sake of it. If HN comments are to be believed, top performer at your average FAANG easily earn $500k per year. At that point, aren't you well past the point where more money brings more happiness, even in high cost-of-living places? What's the point? Why not find a job that's fun and fulfilling?

The cost of living is just so crazy high here though, $2.5m for a starter home in SV. More in some parts. You’d need a household income of 500k/yr to even qualify for that mortgage.

Re: Toxic culture is driving the great resignation

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That is not real research. I'm disgusted that big names like mit stand behind buzzword-driven self-affirmative soft science bullshit publications like this.

Why are you surprised that management science is soft science? It seems like your view of MIT does not fit the breath of the research.

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> "This finding is consistent with a study of 28 Gap stores, in which employees at randomly-assigned locations received their work schedules two weeks in advance, and their managers were barred from canceling their shifts at the last minute. Employees in the control stores were subject to the usual scheduling practices."

I don't even know what to say to this. The idea that big corp is intentionally fucking with their blue-collar workers who are likely to be living paycheck-to-paycheck, sleep deprived, or struggling to balance multiple jobs / school and job, just to study how it impacts employee retention, is baffling to me. This should be outright illegal (if it's not already).

Re: Toxic culture is driving the great resignation

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> "This finding is consistent with a study of 28 Gap stores, in which employees at randomly-assigned locations received their work schedules two weeks in advance, and their managers were barred from canceling their shifts at the last minute. Employees in the control stores were subject to the usual scheduling practices." I don't even know what to say to this. The idea that big corp is intentionally fucking with their…

It's worse than you think. The study was to _improve_ the scheduling in the stores in the study so that workers got a whole two weeks notice of their shifts. They merely left things as they were in the control stores.
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