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House mice and rodents that have lived in buildings for their entire lives will have a slim chance of surviving outdoors. If possible, relocate mice to an outbuilding like a shed or garage. https://www.humanesociety.org/resources/what-do-about-wild-m...

Mice carry disease, and the hantavirus is extremely deadly. I know, I've had it. >50% fatality by some counts. As mice in my area have it, I cannot in good conscience do anything but kill mice I catch. The risks are too high.

Oh man, I looked up hantavirus, scary stuff. Sorry you had to go through that.

Thankfully there's only been 4 known cases in my state since at least as far back as 1996, but still.

Now I'm starting to rethink the live traps. Also I'm going to be extra careful in the basement, and might throw out more stuff than I was going to before. Great.

Also not going to do what I was planning to do and clean everything up slowly over weeks, even while recently capturing the mice.

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pie crust is easy So is pizza dough! I make it about once a week, and every time I'm reminded of my younger generation boss who didn't know that pizza dough is just flour, water, salt, and yeast. She though it was some kind of magic plastic or something and refused to eat pizza because of it. People really are getting too far away from their food sources.

> She though it was some kind of magic plastic If all she's had is "dollar slice" pizza, I can see how she came to that conclusion.

Really? I can't. Why would pizza dough be made of plastic when it appears so bread-like? It's called dough.

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Mice carry disease, and the hantavirus is extremely deadly. I know, I've had it. >50% fatality by some counts. As mice in my area have it, I cannot in good conscience do anything but kill mice I catch. The risks are too high.

FWIW, hantavirus is spread via mouse urine, not by the mice themselves, so the most important way to avoid it is to sanitize places where mice have peed.

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Mice carry disease, and the hantavirus is extremely deadly. I know, I've had it. >50% fatality by some counts. As mice in my area have it, I cannot in good conscience do anything but kill mice I catch. The risks are too high.

FWIW, hantavirus is spread via mouse urine, not by the mice themselves, so the most important way to avoid it is to sanitize places where mice have peed.

Also droppings, apparently. You're not supposed to vaccuum because it could stir up dust from the droppings. I've just been reading up on it from the CDC:

https://www.cdc.gov/hantavirus/pdf/HantavirusBrochure-508.pd...

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I haven't seen any, myself. And my anecdote is as good as theirs. It'd be nice if they actually pointed to, you know, data, for these kinds of stories. My pizza place was closed though. Everyone out with covid. And it wasn't the usual cashiers over at the grocery; I think they may have been temps, because they didn't know how to do anything.

You may not have seen it yet but you will. I'm on the east coast and I see it at every store, even Dollar General.

Weird, I'm on the east coast, too. And haven't seen any empty shelves in the grocery store.

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I was at a local Trader Joes on the 3rd of January, the store was much more barren than normal, and when I went up to the counter I asked if the truck was delayed, it wasn't. They had a larger rush on Jan 2nd and 3rd than they had leading up to Christmas and New Years. It was very odd to see.

the TJ's near me (greater Seattle area) was pretty bare, but they did miss their daily delivery (due to landslide blocking a highway). almost all cold dairy & vegetables were out of stock

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I live in the Seattle-area where we've been hit with some serious winter weather in the mountain passes, to the point that for a period of a few hours, there was practically no route to drive to a neighboring state, and the passes were closed for the better part of 72+ hours. Even with that, and the rest of the aforementioned issues, I have had virtually no problem shopping for what I needed with some small changes,…

I live to the west of you out on the peninsula and we couldn't get milk for the past week and a half. As in there wasn't a single carton of milk anywhere in multiple stores. Curious if it's just smaller towns relying on distribution from the city, and getting cut off first or what. I figured Seattle would have had similar issues.

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According to Chase my grocery spending is up 40% since two years ago.

I buy so little beef these days. Chicken and pork (except for bacon which has doubled) haven't went up as much.

The weirdest things are out of stock these days. Those canned cinnamon rolls are nowhere to be seen. They were out of carrots the other day. Certain breads...

I really feel for lower or fixed income shoppers. Everything else has went up in price as well so they're making cuts somehow

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"There are some issues with out-of-stocks, but it tends to be a situation where if you go to a store on a Tuesday night, maybe something's out of stock, but by Wednesday sometime it's back in store," Rose told NPR. This describes about the “worst” i’ve seen, in new england. I had no trouble getting some fairly fussy ingredients for holiday cooking or my annual winter anti-depression baking spasms. Still, march 2020 d…

Yeah I did the pantry thing after March 2020 (in the basement, the kitchen doesn't have a proper pantry) and wasn't careful enough about protecting it. It was fine for a year, but this winter we got mice in the house and now we have to toss what wasn't in cans or plastic containers already. We set some live traps and I've caught and released (several miles away) four mice already. Still a good idea, we just can't hav…

We use a lot of tubs with seals because panty moths came in woth the bird food a couple of years ago. I HATE pantry moths.
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