New‐onset autoimmune phenomena post‐Covid‐19 vaccination • Hacker News Board

Re: New‐onset autoimmune phenomena post‐Covid‐19 vaccination

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Post by alexvoda » Tue, Jan 11, 2022, 8:21 PM UTC

yunohn wrote: post #160

alexvoda wrote: post #159

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What are you talking about? You consider "the science" to be e phenomenon? What does that even mean? Also, plenty of people who are (voluntarily or involuntarily) spreading FUD are not directly telling others to do or not do something. They are just asking questions. And keep asking the same questions even after they have received answers repeatedly. It is still spreading FUD. Skepticism and questioning authority is…

If you think I’m absurd for questioning authority and skepticism in situation where profits are astronomical and will be enforced by governments, I have a bridge to sell you. Regardless, I can tell in your reply that you think of me as a kook, conspiracy theorist. Gday!

I do not consider scepticism and questioning authority absurd. I consider them healthy.

But I do consider persisting in the belief that "they" are hiding some unknown dangerous side effects from us to be absurd. Because there has been so much scrutiny over these vaccines. Each side effect was heavily analysed in multiple countries. Already more than half of the worlds population has been vaccinated. The vaccines are vastly safer than the disease.

Re: New‐onset autoimmune phenomena post‐Covid‐19 vaccination

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Post by parkingrift » Tue, Jan 11, 2022, 9:07 PM UTC

walterbell wrote: post #146

parkingrift wrote: post #134

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I wish we didn't need that disclaimer. This is not how science or the scientific method is supposed to work. You shouldn't need an entire paragraph apologizing about your findings so that armchair warriors and tech companies don't censor you. It's honestly quite disturbing that this kind of upfront apologizing is needed.

Even HN has censored/flagged some papers, forestalling review and discussion. Time will tell if this was justified.

HN commonly deletes this stuff. Just today I saw a blog post from a professor in California on the efficacy of vaccines against Omicron over time. Went back to the HN home page and, poof, gone.

Re: New‐onset autoimmune phenomena post‐Covid‐19 vaccination

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Post by hybridtupel » Wed, Jan 12, 2022, 9:59 PM UTC

throwaway2474 wrote: post #38

robbiep wrote: post #23

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I’m sorry to hear about your issues. With respect, I’ll take a stand against your claim of there being a tsunami of patients with vaccine injuries innundating rheumatologists - I am in the field and continue to ask colleagues if they are seeing anything of the sort and no-one has seen anything like this. However, if it is happening, we will surely see it in the data. Australia is almost fully vaccinated (but also mor…

Australian with pericarditis here. Both my cardiologist and GP told me they’ve seen a flood of patients (mostly 30-something men) and both told me separately that the published numbers are obviously wrong. What I think is occurring, at least in the case of myo/pericarditis, is that nobody reports cases unless the outcome is really bad. GPs do not habitually report to the TGA, and most specialists don’t either. So the…

At least you got a diagnosis. I know someone having the symptoms of a pericarditis for several weeks now but the doctors don't acknowledge them, telling they were merely pycholocial. If nobody reports these issues then they won't be widely known and they won't be treated.

Re: New‐onset autoimmune phenomena post‐Covid‐19 vaccination

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Post by manwe150 » Sat, Jan 22, 2022, 2:52 AM UTC

dev360 wrote: post #120

mauvehaus wrote: post #73

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A good first step might be making sure the population is educated sufficiently to identify and weigh the risks between a 1 in 1,000,000 side effect, the disease the vaccine protects against, and the pure bullshit peddled by fear mongers. Right now, we have people in the US who still believe that Covid is no worse than a bad case of the flu. All the evidence (at least for the pre Omicron variants) suggests that the re…

> All the evidence (at least for the pre Omicron variants) suggests that the reality, as viewed by death rate, is orders of magnitude more bleak. Dr. Rochelle Walensky, Director of CDC was actually in an interview recently where she said 75% of Covid deaths occurred in people with 4 co-morbidities. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pa7N-iNkaUE This statement begs the question of what percentile of deaths occurred with…

To answer my own question two weeks later, it turns out that number quoted on GMA was specifically the percentage of vaccinated people (https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/covid-deaths-4-comorbiditi...). Her statement had no relevance to an unvaccinated person, as the grand-parent's comment was asking about.