Ask HN: I suck at math, where to start?
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Re: Ask HN: I suck at math, where to start?
#82From a CS view math is:
Discrete math and combinatorics? Really useful for proving algorithm properties etc.. graph theory is useful as well.
Statistics? Extremely useful. Linear algebra? Extremely useful as applied to statistics and deep learning.
Theorem proving? Useful for determining program correctness, important in some industries.
Of these, I think stats and linear algebra are the most fundamental. You can use these to build models of things and estimate parameters and create predictions.
I think the critical piece is to learn how to apply these tools/concepts correctly to solve problems, determine when they are valid / what the limits are / and how to intellectually debug them.
Otherwise learning about algorithmic complexity and how to solve CS type problems with algorithms is more likely to help your career.
Re: Ask HN: I suck at math, where to start?
#83I'm in the same boat as you I think.
I'm 40, work as a programmer and I have a fear of being found out for not know enough maths.
I bought "math for programmers" https://www.manning.com/books/math-for-programmers But I realised I really need to get better at algebra first.
I'm treating this as how I treated learning the guitar on my own when I was 12, sit in my room at night and practice.
I'd be interested to hear what people think of my khan academy plan :)
Re: Ask HN: I suck at math, where to start?
#84In my experience as a mathematician, it is not always easy to identify the source of frustration in a problem. Having a different perspective can be really helpful. (Also in my experience as a math educator, a shockingly large proportion of problems stem from fractions, exponentials, and logarithms --- or not knowing what a function is.)
Re: Ask HN: I suck at math, where to start?
#85I recently faced the same realisation. I'm a software engineer with several years of experience and somehow felt like I didn't know enough about formal computer science/math to tackle the problems I found most interesting (usually very abstract, foundational stuff). One day I decided to go to a physical bookstore and buy a bunch of books from the Math and Computer Science sections and started from there. It was proba…
Re: Ask HN: I suck at math, where to start?
#86Start skimming at the 1st grade level and then slow down and focus when you reach material that isn't easy.
Re: Ask HN: I suck at math, where to start?
#87Check out this Farnam Street post - https://fs.blog/mathematicians-lament-2
On the flip side, I think that when people write about math in scientific reports for example, they don't explain the math they use either.
Re: Ask HN: I suck at math, where to start?
#88I'm the same. Self taught, brain is not mathematically oriented and it feels like a gap in my abilities. People will often say something like, "You don't really need math" for programming but that is missing the point, in my opinion. The point is that it feels to me (after many years of experience and working with many great programmers) that people with a mathematically oriented mind tend to find certain common prog…
Re: Ask HN: I suck at math, where to start?
#89Chances are you actually suck at algebra. I went through this issue when I started electrical engineering as part of an overly elaborate midlife crisis. I got the book in the bookstore that was supposed to bring you up to high school level and just did all of the exercises. Then I did a whole lot of exercises for the introductory university math courses. Basically it is something you have to grind at. Once you do eno…
3Blue1Brown series on linear algebra is an amazing resource as a starting point. https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PL0-GT3co4r2y2YErbmuJw2L5t...
Re: Ask HN: I suck at math, where to start?
#90Out of curiosity, what does it look like to not-suck at math? Do you wake up in the morning and are reminded of constants and theorems in everyday things and laugh empathetically with donuts as you recognize your shared absurd topological homology, or go to the office and automatically recognize what's possible and not from its implied complexity class in office conversations? Are you checking Bayesian priors in your…
> Out of curiosity, what does it look like to not-suck at math? To me, it looks like the rest of your comment, wherein you casually mention constants, theorems, topological homology and other concepts that don't even come to mind for many people who self-identify as being bad at maths (as I do).
However, things have shapes and relationships, most of which we can't physically see, but we can reason about and compare them, and that's about as deep as I get. e.g. do things at a certain level of abstraction have a similar shape, and what are the words that describe that? Does this tell us more about the thing itself, or the limits of our ability to percieve it, and it's just an artifact of our lens? It's like having an ear for music, where you hear fragments of other pieces in everything, and interpret forms and symmetries and respond to intuitions, expectations, and resolutions - but not being able to play it.
I think we're entering into an era where we can finally have punk math, where some idiots get on stage and the people watching them go, "omg, this is terrible but fun, and I could do this better," and a thousand bands get launched. When I write stuff like that, it's because I don't mind acting as one of those idiots. I figure if most of my favourite bands can't read music, there's interesting math to be done by people who aren't proving anything or making progress, but intentionally or not, like all idiots, they exist as an example to inspire others. :)