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Launch HN: Clover (YC S20) – Notes, whiteboarding, and daily planner in one tool

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Re: Launch HN: Clover (YC S20) – Notes, whiteboarding, and daily planner in one tool

#91

This looks cool. I’ve been looking for a more permanent replacement for Roam. Everything I’ve tried so far (Obsidian, Logseq, Athens, Mem, etc.) have all been either clones, or just small improvements. I have yet to see something that grabs me in the same way Roam did years ago (block refs was an aha moment). My other must have feature is mobile, which it looks like you have covered. I haven’t tried Clover yet, but d…

If Roam grabbed you, why are you looking for a permanent replacement?

Re: Launch HN: Clover (YC S20) – Notes, whiteboarding, and daily planner in one tool

#92
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> ideas on how to improve it - E2EE Anecdotal personal data point: I already pay $10/mo for an E2EE note app with a passable/mediocre UX. I would easily pay up to $15/mo for a polished experience like your app seems to have, and more if it becomes part of my professional workflow. - Android and Linux support For personal use, you may have no issue ignoring these market segments, but it might be a hard sell for teams.…

Most users actually do not care. They care about usability and price. If it's E2EE, then some features will not be possible, such as content search.

I guess so, hence qualifying my point as a personal anecdote.

In this case since they rely on apps, content search would be possible. You just store everything on the user's device.

Re: Launch HN: Clover (YC S20) – Notes, whiteboarding, and daily planner in one tool

#93
post #91

This looks cool. I’ve been looking for a more permanent replacement for Roam. Everything I’ve tried so far (Obsidian, Logseq, Athens, Mem, etc.) have all been either clones, or just small improvements. I have yet to see something that grabs me in the same way Roam did years ago (block refs was an aha moment). My other must have feature is mobile, which it looks like you have covered. I haven’t tried Clover yet, but d…

If Roam grabbed you, why are you looking for a permanent replacement?

No mobile app. It was promised years ago, and they’ve been silent on it since. Their mobile experience right now is nearly unbearable.

Re: Launch HN: Clover (YC S20) – Notes, whiteboarding, and daily planner in one tool

#94

This looks cool. I’ve been looking for a more permanent replacement for Roam. Everything I’ve tried so far (Obsidian, Logseq, Athens, Mem, etc.) have all been either clones, or just small improvements. I have yet to see something that grabs me in the same way Roam did years ago (block refs was an aha moment). My other must have feature is mobile, which it looks like you have covered. I haven’t tried Clover yet, but d…

Hey there, We don’t have block referencing in the same way Roam does it… yet. We allow you to copy a block link and paste it which will create a link to the block with text preview. We hope to add improved support for this soon.

A 75k page import is quite the load. We have bulk markdown import but that may test its limits. How would you ideally perform that and where are you importing from?

Re: Launch HN: Clover (YC S20) – Notes, whiteboarding, and daily planner in one tool

#95
post #91

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If Roam grabbed you, why are you looking for a permanent replacement?

No mobile app. It was promised years ago, and they’ve been silent on it since. Their mobile experience right now is nearly unbearable.

Would love some details on your device type and what about the app in unbearable. There’s plenty of room for improvement and we’d love to fix up whatever is affecting your experience.

Re: Launch HN: Clover (YC S20) – Notes, whiteboarding, and daily planner in one tool

#96

Congrats for the launch, it all looks very polished! "Surface" is the killer feature for me. Been waiting for someone to build this for a while. Conceptual question: isn't Document just a degenerate case of Surface? Can we just have one type of page ("Leaves" ;))? Document-like functionality could be exposed through the Text tool or as a separate "text editor". In the same vein, Favorites can be just a Label.

This is something we are constantly exploring. They are in fact the same under the hood but it’s been a tricky UX challenge to provide a seamless and intuitive way to toggle between the two. Always thinking about this though. Have any thoughts on it?

Re: Launch HN: Clover (YC S20) – Notes, whiteboarding, and daily planner in one tool

#97
post #77

Loving it so far, and all I've explored is the Daily Notes. My intention is to try it long-term. The major missing feature that jumps out at me is the "create link" UX - I'd love to be able to highlight some text and paste a url from my clipboard to create a link. This is how Notion, Slack and GitHub work, and it's fast becoming a must-have!

That _should_ work. If it’s not you’ve encountered a bug that we’ll fix up for you! Let us know support@cloverapp.com.

Re: Launch HN: Clover (YC S20) – Notes, whiteboarding, and daily planner in one tool

#98
post #72

As others have mentioned, I want to try it first without having to create an account and give you my personal information. Also, your FAQ says “We do not track any personally identifiable information. Additionally we do not sell or share user data with third parties.” but your privacy policy says “ We may share your personal information with third party advertising companies to market our own Services and grow our Se…

Honestly, we haven’t even considered allowing a test drive without an account but the community here has given us some really great opinions in why that is so important. We’re going to discuss this and see if there’s some way we can do that. Thanks for sharing your thoughts on this!

Re: Launch HN: Clover (YC S20) – Notes, whiteboarding, and daily planner in one tool

#100
post #98
post #72

As others have mentioned, I want to try it first without having to create an account and give you my personal information. Also, your FAQ says “We do not track any personally identifiable information. Additionally we do not sell or share user data with third parties.” but your privacy policy says “ We may share your personal information with third party advertising companies to market our own Services and grow our Se…

Honestly, we haven’t even considered allowing a test drive without an account but the community here has given us some really great opinions in why that is so important. We’re going to discuss this and see if there’s some way we can do that. Thanks for sharing your thoughts on this!

It doesn’t have to be much, even if it’s just a note embed in a demo page that you can’t edit, or a few components one could look at up close. When I go to your website I have to judge the entire product on 3 small images. Even a video would go a long way.

I also think you should show a tutorial before the sign-up page on your app. You may get organic traffic through the app store and potential customers have no idea if the app is for them before getting hit with a sign-up page.

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