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Completing a part-time Master's in computer science while working

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Re: Completing a part-time Master's in computer science while working

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Congratulations, well done! Did that a few years ago, started when I was 47, completed with 50. Was easier for me. Distance Learning University in Germany. And I had the opportunity to do it at work. One could call it a side project. Since about two years I try my hand at a bachelor in mathematics at another Distance Learning University in Germany. Guess I will pull that stunt around 2025.

Mind sharing the uni name? I am looking at doing something similar

Re: Completing a part-time Master's in computer science while working

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I’ve done this. It was really hard. Also the best thing I’ve ever done.

I had to be very ruthless with my main job. Working strictly 9-5. This really annoyed my boss and I almost got fired, but I just powered through and held my ground.

I had to work every evening for about 3 hours. I developed the habit of working even when very tired. Turns out you can do calculus even when exhausted.

I had to be very disciplined in saying ‘no’ to nearly all social events. (But still saw my girlfriend/now wife).

This whole experience was great fun and I would recommend it if you like learning new stuff. Especially if you want to change career.

Re: Completing a part-time Master's in computer science while working

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post #59

I'm currently in a Master program (data science: maths, maths, maths and maths, oh and maths). I'm almost 50 years old. I was very happy to read that article because it doesn't mention a little detail : age. The sort of effort the author has done is really something he should be proud of, but at 29 your brain is still quite up to to the task. At almost 50 (+kids, +family to keep care of (even if family is incredibly…

I've found that cutting out sugar and eating more fat (especially EPA+DHA) has made my brain feel a lot sharper. Also strictness with bedtimes and getting natural light and exercise in the early morning get's ever more important with age. However, I agree ageing and family are definitely terrible for you :-)

Re: Completing a part-time Master's in computer science while working

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post #59

I'm currently in a Master program (data science: maths, maths, maths and maths, oh and maths). I'm almost 50 years old. I was very happy to read that article because it doesn't mention a little detail : age. The sort of effort the author has done is really something he should be proud of, but at 29 your brain is still quite up to to the task. At almost 50 (+kids, +family to keep care of (even if family is incredibly…

Is it your actual brain or is it having a million things to worry about? Eg. if you could do a one-month retreat away from it all, would you get the same out of it as your younger self?

Of course it's also true one's younger self had other distractions, so it can be hard to compare.

Re: Completing a part-time Master's in computer science while working

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post #59

I'm currently in a Master program (data science: maths, maths, maths and maths, oh and maths). I'm almost 50 years old. I was very happy to read that article because it doesn't mention a little detail : age. The sort of effort the author has done is really something he should be proud of, but at 29 your brain is still quite up to to the task. At almost 50 (+kids, +family to keep care of (even if family is incredibly…

I've found that cutting out sugar and eating more fat (especially EPA+DHA) has made my brain feel a lot sharper. Also strictness with bedtimes and getting natural light and exercise in the early morning get's ever more important with age. However, I agree ageing and family are definitely terrible for you :-)

I’ve found the exact opposite, age has given me greater focus, at 50 I’ve been able to study while working and raising four kids, I was not capable of the same in my 20s

Re: Completing a part-time Master's in computer science while working

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Congratulations, well done! Did that a few years ago, started when I was 47, completed with 50. Was easier for me. Distance Learning University in Germany. And I had the opportunity to do it at work. One could call it a side project. Since about two years I try my hand at a bachelor in mathematics at another Distance Learning University in Germany. Guess I will pull that stunt around 2025.

Did you already have an undergrad in CS? I recently completed a MS in cognitive science in Sweden. I have been drawn to AI research, but it seems that most work in AI these days is being done strictly in Comp Sci rather than Cog Sci, so a Ph.D. in AI is what I really want to do but appears to be out of reach for me because of what seems to be a bias against cog sci despite my interests, skills at research and writing…

No CS undergrad. And its a German degree.

Sorry, the website is just in German:

https://www.hochschule-trier.de/informatik/fernstudium/studi...

There is at least one non CS undergrad path to a master in Germany through distance learning at the Fernuni-Hagen. Website also not in English:

https://www.fernuni-hagen.de/mi/studium/msc_prinformatik/ein...

And I seem to remember a study opportunity for a master in informatics for people with undergrad in humanities at the TU Chemnitz, when I looked back then. In presence not via distance learning, so there probably are more opportunities out there now.

Re: Completing a part-time Master's in computer science while working

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My wife is doing a CS master's, after having done another master's during the lockdown. I'm looking over her shoulder, as I did with my brother a few years ago. It's been interesting to see how she thinks about algorithms and coding from a fresh start.

As a longtime coder I've found it interesting to dive back into some basic algorithms. Something about how it is taught to students makes it harder than just learning it as an already experienced dev. I find I can gloss over a lot of the stuff, but there are still details that I don't understand.

One thing that helps a lot is modern learning resources, basically websites and videos about the same topics, done by someone else. It's quite different from when I was in uni and you were stuck with the people you had around you and the same old books. Now if I don't quite understand insertion sort, there's a variety of explanations.

For those interested there's a number of UK universities that offer a remote master's. Takes a year full time and two part time, and you can often pay by the module. You might also be able to use the virus situation to get a "non-remote" master's remotely, which my wife managed to do last year.

Re: Completing a part-time Master's in computer science while working

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post #61

Congratulations, well done! Did that a few years ago, started when I was 47, completed with 50. Was easier for me. Distance Learning University in Germany. And I had the opportunity to do it at work. One could call it a side project. Since about two years I try my hand at a bachelor in mathematics at another Distance Learning University in Germany. Guess I will pull that stunt around 2025.

Mind sharing the uni name? I am looking at doing something similar

Sure, have look at my reply above and as a general note perhaps here:

https://www.zfh.de/

https://www.fernuni-hagen.de/mi/studium/index.shtml

Sorry, both websites apparently just in German.

Re: Completing a part-time Master's in computer science while working

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I've almost done this too but I saw that people having full time in masters or researcher in a lab more successful than people doing part-time masters as me. They have more time to do research. They produce more because it's their main job, they can go deeper. They collaborate more with researchers that also broader their research and network in the area. It can be the hardest thing to write a paper from research idea to result alone or with an advisor which is the advisor only will help you with the theory writing.

Re: Completing a part-time Master's in computer science while working

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post #59

I'm currently in a Master program (data science: maths, maths, maths and maths, oh and maths). I'm almost 50 years old. I was very happy to read that article because it doesn't mention a little detail : age. The sort of effort the author has done is really something he should be proud of, but at 29 your brain is still quite up to to the task. At almost 50 (+kids, +family to keep care of (even if family is incredibly…

Is it your actual brain or is it having a million things to worry about? Eg. if you could do a one-month retreat away from it all, would you get the same out of it as your younger self? Of course it's also true one's younger self had other distractions, so it can be hard to compare.

The full story is I had a severe burn out (so that means exactly that : your brain is really damaged). My family is super supportive so I don't have that many things to think about.

As a young er student, I had tons of "side projects" (like coding games) :-) So I was definitely not studying all the time. Nowadays I'm 100% focus so it means I work about 8-10 hours a day on my courses. I have very good sleeping habits, I eat well (vegetables but just too much chocolate), I walk 45 minutes 5 days per week and practice taichi about 20 minutes a day.

I tend to outperform students (about 2 standard dev above mean) in practicals but for examinations, where I have to memorize the whole course, that's another story, I perform just as the average BUT I pass half the exams so it means I'm really underperforming... The stress is a big issue but the memorization is the biggest one. It just doesn't work like when I was 20. It's super frustrating.

I have a master im compsci + 2 years phd preparation. But after 20 years, data science is totally foreign to me. It's just math math math, I don't recognize anything I know (so it's super interesting, but I'm really lost :-))

Also I chose data sciences because I was scared to see some COBOL programmers who didn't jump into the web/java/you name it track and who are now old and can't make the effort to switch). So I felt, business intelligence is moving outside the realm of application developpers (because many companies now know how to to business processes with IT) to the realm of data sciences (because that's where there is more room for improvements). I hope I was not too wrong :-)

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