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Completing a part-time Master's in computer science while working

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Not going to college is not your failure, that's what world tells most of us, but that's complete bullshit.

Agreed, that’s more a failure of the system if there are too many obstacles put in the way of an motivated individual to enter college

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I dropped out of college in 1993. I’ve been in industry since and empty nesting has me thinking about going back to school. Are there programs that will give me any credit for time served? Not a full degree obviously but maybe fast forward a couple years in the process. I’m thinking a 30 year old transcript with a ~2.0 GPA isn’t going to move the needle much.

Do you really want that? You would skip useful knowledge, wouldnt you?

When I took my MSc. most of the subjects were things I was very familiar with already, and so most of the courses were paint by numbers.

There were exceptions that were worthwhile, but it was largely an exercise in documenting my existing knowledge. I couldn't test out of things, and most subject had compulsory exercises, so I spent a lot of time basically proving what I already knew rather than learning new stuff. It was clear to me in advance which courses I could have easily skipped, so from that perspective I would not have skipped useful knowledge.

That said, of course the problem is that to give me an actual degree the university needed to know I actually knew those things and verifying that only with tests is hard to get right.

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For some reason I thought I had clicked on the comments section for the "two sleeps" article and saw this and thought "wow".

I would've thought it was the default for many parents; my youngest child is pretty persistent with her polyphasic sleep...

When my son was younger I got into a habit of going to sleep when he did, and then getting up a few hours later to do a few hours of work on side projects and then back to sleep. It worked quite well.

We'd also get into the habit of taking him to soft play centres (for those unaware: think warehouse full of padded climbing structures over multiple floors and a horde of kids running rampant through them; a total nightmare if your kid insists you join in, or quite relaxing when they run off by themselves) during the weekend so he could wear himself out totally and then go home and have a couple of hours nap when he did.

Until that horrible day when we got home from the soft play and he didn't go down for a nap... I can still remember the disappointment (we ended up still taking naps, but having to take turns)

Re: Completing a part-time Master's in computer science while working

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I dropped out of college in 1993. I’ve been in industry since and empty nesting has me thinking about going back to school. Are there programs that will give me any credit for time served? Not a full degree obviously but maybe fast forward a couple years in the process. I’m thinking a 30 year old transcript with a ~2.0 GPA isn’t going to move the needle much.

While I don't know if there's much you can skip, if you're going for a degree at a typical US state school, I'd recommend taking as much of your general education/ non-major requirements at a community college. It's far cheaper and there is less bullshit, as the state schools will pack a hundred (or four hundred) kids in a single 101 level class ("survey of architecture" or "intro to chemistry" or whatever), and for some classes like the calculus series, they're often poorly taught with needless complexities to weed out the weaker engineering students. (This is also way cheaper.)

Then once you have all that out of the way, you can take the upper level classes in CS at the university instead of the community college.

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Do you really want that? You would skip useful knowledge, wouldnt you?

When I took my MSc. most of the subjects were things I was very familiar with already, and so most of the courses were paint by numbers. There were exceptions that were worthwhile, but it was largely an exercise in documenting my existing knowledge. I couldn't test out of things, and most subject had compulsory exercises, so I spent a lot of time basically proving what I already knew rather than learning new stuff. I…

Good point. OP dropped out of college 30 years ago, it might also be good to get into the college-mode with something one is familiar with.

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Did that too while working full time and raising two kids, thesis and all. Glad I did it, gladder I’m done.

I also completed my master's while working full time way back then (+10 years ago). I wouldn't say it was the happiest or most relaxed time of my life, but I'm glad it was over in a year.

BTW in restrospect doing a master's degree wasn't such a good choice anyway.

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It sounds like our undergraduate years in the BU CS department overlapped. I, too, have been stunned by the growth of the CS department since those days; going from the basement of 111 Cummington, as you described, to what will be one of the most iconic buildings in the city. I heard good things from a friend about the MET CS master's program too. He said that his Theory of Computation class in that program made a lo…

Leonid Levin (of the Cook Levin Theorem) was my undergraduate advisor. A very peculiar man, someone who became academic famous, and seemingly only cared about research which made his teaching an after thought. A true character.

Yes. I love his personal web page, and love that as recently as 2017 it still had the absurd neon green background. https://web.archive.org/web/20170606174105/https://www.cs.bu...

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I'm currently in a Master program (data science: maths, maths, maths and maths, oh and maths). I'm almost 50 years old. I was very happy to read that article because it doesn't mention a little detail : age. The sort of effort the author has done is really something he should be proud of, but at 29 your brain is still quite up to to the task. At almost 50 (+kids, +family to keep care of (even if family is incredibly supportive)) it's a totally different story. If you want to be able to learn the courses correctly (that is, you don't just try to barely pass the courses, you look for A grades), then you're in for a ride. Your brain has slowed down by a factor of at least 2. All in all, where a student spend 3 days on a task (praticals, studying), you spend about 8. So it's very difficult to do that with a full time job. Such an effort makes me tired very quickly.

But, as the author said, doing something you choose, something that makes a better you, something where what you do is valued (instead of "soft skills") is extremely enjoyable, although exhausting and stressful... I'd do it again, but at maximum 35 years old :-)

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Congratulations, well done! Did that a few years ago, started when I was 47, completed with 50. Was easier for me. Distance Learning University in Germany. And I had the opportunity to do it at work. One could call it a side project. Since about two years I try my hand at a bachelor in mathematics at another Distance Learning University in Germany. Guess I will pull that stunt around 2025.

Did you already have an undergrad in CS? I recently completed a MS in cognitive science in Sweden. I have been drawn to AI research, but it seems that most work in AI these days is being done strictly in Comp Sci rather than Cog Sci, so a Ph.D. in AI is what I really want to do but appears to be out of reach for me because of what seems to be a bias against cog sci despite my interests, skills at research and writing, and my technical ability to do the work. I think there is a perception that cog sci is only about human intelligence, even though AI/comp sci was one of the primary fields of research of the co-founders of cog sci.

Anyway, I was thinking maybe I should do a comp sci masters so that I can move on to comp sci PhD and keep going with my research interests.

Did you do your degree in English or German? I live in Germany, but my German is not quite good enough for advanced academic instruction.

Well, congrats. I finished my MS at 44, though I did it full-time in person, which itself was a weird and fun experience at that age.

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