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Edina Minnesota latest suburb to roll out homeowner surveillance camera program

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Re: Edina Minnesota latest suburb to roll out homeowner surveillance camera program

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Post by AnimalMuppet »

grapescheesee wrote: post #23

I was in Minneapolis a few months ago and grabbed a Lyft. I started talking with the driver about crime surges, mainly the dramatic car jackings increase. He said 22 people he personally knew have been victims of car jacking in 2021. They are organized and setup drop off points to box the cars in. The 'passanger' then holds them at gun point and another person gets in the driver seat. Stolen phones and credit cards a…

I went in to the bank for something. While I was there, I joked with the teller, asking if he'd been held up by someone wearing a mask. The joke fell very flat, because he had. He seemed to me to show some signs of trauma as he told me this.

So it's not just ride share services...

Re: Edina Minnesota latest suburb to roll out homeowner surveillance camera program

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Post by supergeek133 »

magicalist wrote: post #36
grapescheesee wrote: post #23

I was in Minneapolis a few months ago and grabbed a Lyft. I started talking with the driver about crime surges, mainly the dramatic car jackings increase. He said 22 people he personally knew have been victims of car jacking in 2021. They are organized and setup drop off points to box the cars in. The 'passanger' then holds them at gun point and another person gets in the driver seat. Stolen phones and credit cards a…

> I started talking with the driver about crime surges, mainly the dramatic car jackings increase. He said 22 people he personally knew have been victims of car jacking in 2021. This sounds like a typical made-up crime panic narrative, honestly. The linked story being about a car left running with an infant in it being stolen doesn't help. Terrible, but not at all some boxed-in high octane car theft. Sibling posts ch…

It is not, based on the number of reported carjackings/thefts, 1% of the population of Minneapolis has either been carjacked or had their car stolen. That's just Minneapolis.

That's WILD.

I live here, it's happening in broad daylight, and becoming more violent.

Last week we had an amber alert because someone stole a car with a 1 year old in it.

Re: Edina Minnesota latest suburb to roll out homeowner surveillance camera program

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Post by dontcare007 »

codyogden wrote: post #47
magicalist wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I started talking with the driver about crime surges, mainly the dramatic car jackings increase. He said 22 people he personally knew have been victims of car jacking in 2021. This sounds like a typical made-up crime panic narrative, honestly. The linked story being about a car left running with an infant in it being stolen doesn't help. Terrible, but not at all some boxed-in high octane car theft. Sibling posts ch…

> for people to stop leaving their cars heating up with the keys in them Yes. Letting your car warm up or idling unattended with the keys inside even if you lock the doors is specifically illegal in Minneapolis. It was made illegal specifically to curb car theft opportunities.

I wonder when they will make short skirts illegal to cut down on rapes? Same principle, IMO.

Re: Edina Minnesota latest suburb to roll out homeowner surveillance camera program

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Post by lotsofpulp »

ahelwer wrote: post #74
throwawaysea wrote: post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don’t know. On the one hand I get what you’re saying, that CHAZ was “peaceful” during the day in that it resembled a sort of low-tier art fair. On the other hand, it was an incredibly lawless hijacking of public property. Daily, thousands of people who use those roads or surrounding amenities (parks, businesses) were forced to find alternatives that took longer and were more crowded, right in the middle of the pand…

Yes, this is the standard right-wing Seattleite bemoaning. Of course, what's always left unsaid is that the implied solution to the existence of homeless people is newly-hired & appropriately-worshipped cops kicking them out of their temporary shelter and trashing their meagre possessions. All so you don't have to look at and deal with the externalities of your nicely-appreciating property prices.

I have yet to hear a good answer to what people expect non federal governments to do, other than to keep people on the move and make it someone else’s problem.

For the same reason no single city, county, or state can offer taxpayer funded healthcare, they also cannot offer taxpayer funded mental healthcare and/or universal basic income (or whatever other welfare scheme), and still be part of a country that has freedom of movement.

The only reason the countries that do offer these things can continue to is because they have an immigration border with which they can limit the number of benefit recipients.

Re: Edina Minnesota latest suburb to roll out homeowner surveillance camera program

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Post by computershit »

magicalist wrote: post #36
grapescheesee wrote: post #23

I was in Minneapolis a few months ago and grabbed a Lyft. I started talking with the driver about crime surges, mainly the dramatic car jackings increase. He said 22 people he personally knew have been victims of car jacking in 2021. They are organized and setup drop off points to box the cars in. The 'passanger' then holds them at gun point and another person gets in the driver seat. Stolen phones and credit cards a…

> I started talking with the driver about crime surges, mainly the dramatic car jackings increase. He said 22 people he personally knew have been victims of car jacking in 2021. This sounds like a typical made-up crime panic narrative, honestly. The linked story being about a car left running with an infant in it being stolen doesn't help. Terrible, but not at all some boxed-in high octane car theft. Sibling posts ch…

The Star Tribune actually just released a breakdown of carjackings in Minneapolis by neighborhood (Edina won't show up here since its a suburb, this is just to illustrate that it is not just a handful of incidents in the city). Keep in mind that these are actual carjackings, not just auto theft (there were over 4,000 of those in the same timeframe).

https://www.startribune.com/a-breakdown-of-2021-carjackings-...

Re: Edina Minnesota latest suburb to roll out homeowner surveillance camera program

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Post by bequanna »

codyogden wrote: post #72
bequanna wrote: post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why are you making this about race? Even if that account doesn't have perfect coverage of all crimes committed, the incidents that are being report by that account DID actually happen, right? As an aside, I've been very happy to see the strategy of calling everything you don't like "racism" lose its effectiveness over the past year.

> Why are you making this about race? I'm not making this about race. I'm making this about whether it's okay to accept the views of racists. Completely different. > Even if that account doesn't have perfect coverage of all crimes committed, the incidents that are being report by that account DID actually happen, right? Nope. Per the source, not all of them happened, and the accuracy of the reports is questionable.

Well, I guess I (and many others) will continue to rely on a source that pretty accurately represents reality vs completely discounting it because someone doesn’t like hearing uncomfortable truth, hand waves and screeches “racism”.

The source you posted is not well researched, balanced, and does not at all appear credible. Indeed, if you would like a glimpse into the author's political world view, you can check the below link to his podcast where he states: "...actual Nazis are increasingly hard to differentiate from mainstream conservatives." So...yea.

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/unbalanced-mn-logan-ca...

Re: Edina Minnesota latest suburb to roll out homeowner surveillance camera program

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Post by halpert »

supergeek133 wrote: post #82
magicalist wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I started talking with the driver about crime surges, mainly the dramatic car jackings increase. He said 22 people he personally knew have been victims of car jacking in 2021. This sounds like a typical made-up crime panic narrative, honestly. The linked story being about a car left running with an infant in it being stolen doesn't help. Terrible, but not at all some boxed-in high octane car theft. Sibling posts ch…

It is not, based on the number of reported carjackings/thefts, 1% of the population of Minneapolis has either been carjacked or had their car stolen. That's just Minneapolis. That's WILD. I live here, it's happening in broad daylight, and becoming more violent. Last week we had an amber alert because someone stole a car with a 1 year old in it.

Wow that’s a crazy statistic. Do you have a source?

Re: Edina Minnesota latest suburb to roll out homeowner surveillance camera program

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Post by lapsedacademic »

magicalist wrote: post #36
grapescheesee wrote: post #23

I was in Minneapolis a few months ago and grabbed a Lyft. I started talking with the driver about crime surges, mainly the dramatic car jackings increase. He said 22 people he personally knew have been victims of car jacking in 2021. They are organized and setup drop off points to box the cars in. The 'passanger' then holds them at gun point and another person gets in the driver seat. Stolen phones and credit cards a…

> I started talking with the driver about crime surges, mainly the dramatic car jackings increase. He said 22 people he personally knew have been victims of car jacking in 2021. This sounds like a typical made-up crime panic narrative, honestly. The linked story being about a car left running with an infant in it being stolen doesn't help. Terrible, but not at all some boxed-in high octane car theft. Sibling posts ch…

Car thefts really are up across the country. This is unsurprising given the surging price of used cars & car parts.

Re: Edina Minnesota latest suburb to roll out homeowner surveillance camera program

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Post by KerrAvon »

lotsofpulp wrote: post #84
ahelwer wrote: post #74

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, this is the standard right-wing Seattleite bemoaning. Of course, what's always left unsaid is that the implied solution to the existence of homeless people is newly-hired & appropriately-worshipped cops kicking them out of their temporary shelter and trashing their meagre possessions. All so you don't have to look at and deal with the externalities of your nicely-appreciating property prices.

I have yet to hear a good answer to what people expect non federal governments to do, other than to keep people on the move and make it someone else’s problem. For the same reason no single city, county, or state can offer taxpayer funded healthcare, they also cannot offer taxpayer funded mental healthcare and/or universal basic income (or whatever other welfare scheme), and still be part of a country that has freedo…

Can you point to non-right-wing-affiliated sources to back up your assertions?

Have you read this? https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/42867903-open-borders

Re: Edina Minnesota latest suburb to roll out homeowner surveillance camera program

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Post by lapsedacademic »

dontcare007 wrote: post #83
codyogden wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> for people to stop leaving their cars heating up with the keys in them Yes. Letting your car warm up or idling unattended with the keys inside even if you lock the doors is specifically illegal in Minneapolis. It was made illegal specifically to curb car theft opportunities.

I wonder when they will make short skirts illegal to cut down on rapes? Same principle, IMO.

1. There is a clear causal link between leaving your keys in the ignition and having your car stolen. There is not a even a clearly established correlation between dress and rape, much less causal evidence.

2. There is an obvious difference between a law telling you not to leave your keys in an unlocked car and a law telling you how to dress.

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