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Launch HN: Clover (YC S20) – Notes, whiteboarding, and daily planner in one tool

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Re: Launch HN: Clover (YC S20) – Notes, whiteboarding, and daily planner in one tool

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Post by boxmonster »

boxmonster wrote: post #29
CedarMills wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>Besides I have free and open source... Waiting for the obligatory Dropbox comment here.

Not from me. I personally don't need Dropbox but I can see the utility if a company want to share a 1 TB storage area between employees. I'm guessing that's how it's used since I've never used it.

>Besides I have free and open source

I took a look in my note taking bookmarks folder to see what I meant. I thought Obsidian was open source but it's not. I was thinking of Joplin, which I haven't tried yet, but will today

https://joplinapp.org/

Re: Launch HN: Clover (YC S20) – Notes, whiteboarding, and daily planner in one tool

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Post by attasi »

epaga wrote: post #28

This reminds me of an iOS app I built years ago (primarily for myself) called Mindscope https://apps.apple.com/de/app/mindscope-thought-organizer/id... - a visual, hierarchical text canvas. Scapple meets Workflowy if you will. I always loved this freer and more visual form of note-taking so it’s really cool to see a full-fledged, more complete solution with media/images and the whole nine yards. Very cool!

Oh cool! I haven't tried Mindscope, but it does look similar. Nice work!

Re: Launch HN: Clover (YC S20) – Notes, whiteboarding, and daily planner in one tool

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Post by attasi »

jitl wrote: post #15

Cool app! I think your design and messaging are well-positioned, I would pick this over Craft as a personal user for sure. What data model are you using for collaboration/sync?

Appreciate that, thanks! Our collaboration model is similar to that of Notion under the hood. It's operation based and resolves conflicts using a last-edit-wins on a granular level.

Re: Launch HN: Clover (YC S20) – Notes, whiteboarding, and daily planner in one tool

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Post by gesusc »

boxmonster wrote: post #25

My experience in case it helps: Open it up, looks like mobile only. I do my planning an organizing on my big desktop monitor with good keyboard so this is a no go Wants my email a lot. Maybe this guy is harvesting Hacker News emails Subscription model. I hate those because I always forget to cancel. Besides I have free and open source note takers that are pretty good. Not everything I want but good. Someone asked abo…

Hey thanks for checking us out. We do have a web app available that can be accessed here https://app.cloverapp.com/login. We are cloud based which is why we require you to create an account to use the app. With that being said we offer a free plan (that has some limitations) and a free Pro plan trial (with no credit card required) so you can try out all the Pro features beforehand. Hope that helps!

Re: Launch HN: Clover (YC S20) – Notes, whiteboarding, and daily planner in one tool

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Post by jmann99999 »

attasi wrote: post #11
jmann99999 wrote: post #7

I really like this. I use DEVONthink currently for most of my notes. However, I really like the "daily" note nature of this. I have a couple of questions that would make this very useful and maybe change my current process. First, can I tag parts of a daily note? My use-case would be tagging sections of a daily note related to a customer. In a given day, I may have 5 meetings with different customers. If I could tag…

Thanks for the questions and ideas. We do support tags, which you can add inline using the format `#tagname`. This will create a Labels section in your sidebar which will show a list of all pages tagged with that. We've had many feature requests to make this more granular – to show blocks tagged with the labels – which we've been working on but haven't shipped yet. As for Surfaces on Daily Notes: I typically create a…

Attasi-

Thanks for the info. I tried your suggestions:

Labels: That worked really well for my use case once I figured out the non-stated trick. I kept trying to inline a #label. It didn't work and I got frustrated until I realized I needed to be a Pro user to get this feature. So, you may want some messaging on that when someone tries to inline a label but they don't have the right plan.

Of course, if it could deep link into the daily note that would be more useful, but I think you have heard that from others. The current state doesn't stop me from using it but deep linking would be much more useful.

Surfaces: From an input perspective that actually works far better than I suspected. However, my concern would be having so many surface pages in the Page Tree. Myestimate is that I draw on about 3 out of 5 notes. So in a month, my Page Tree would be overwhelmed. Perhaps there is a way auto-place these into a folder.

Re: Launch HN: Clover (YC S20) – Notes, whiteboarding, and daily planner in one tool

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Post by klohto »

davidjfelix wrote: post #22
attasi wrote: post #3

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I agree, desktop is critical. We actually have one you can download here! https://cloverapp.com/download

I'm working on adding this to brew cask right now. Edit: https://github.com/Homebrew/homebrew-cask/pull/117242 My first cask, help appreciated.

Wow, that was fast. Thanks!

Re: Launch HN: Clover (YC S20) – Notes, whiteboarding, and daily planner in one tool

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Post by yodon »

blitz_skull wrote: post #30

How does this differentiate at all from NotePlan3? Just from the landing page is looks damn near identical.

Not from Clover, but my read on differences is Clover has an infinite canvas for drawing & widgets and cross-platform app support. They share support for Markup, Tasks, and Calendar.

Re: Launch HN: Clover (YC S20) – Notes, whiteboarding, and daily planner in one tool

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Post by attasi »

jmann99999 wrote: post #35
attasi wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thanks for the questions and ideas. We do support tags, which you can add inline using the format `#tagname`. This will create a Labels section in your sidebar which will show a list of all pages tagged with that. We've had many feature requests to make this more granular – to show blocks tagged with the labels – which we've been working on but haven't shipped yet. As for Surfaces on Daily Notes: I typically create a…

Attasi- Thanks for the info. I tried your suggestions: Labels: That worked really well for my use case once I figured out the non-stated trick. I kept trying to inline a #label. It didn't work and I got frustrated until I realized I needed to be a Pro user to get this feature. So, you may want some messaging on that when someone tries to inline a label but they don't have the right plan. Of course, if it could deep l…

Oh, I should have mentioned labels were Pro only. Sorry about that. We should probably message in the app when trying to do it as well. Good call.

Auto-placing pages is a pretty cool idea! We were considering making the Page Tree an opt-in area where you could just place pages you really need to build up in there and let you access everything else from the All Pages section.

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