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Omicron at 100% Prevalence, Colorado

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Re: Omicron at 100% Prevalence, Colorado

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Post by bleuchase »

bratwurst3000 wrote: post #686
bleuchase wrote: post #684

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> ????? Long covid and post covid syndrom are a known thing. Okay let’s see your evidence of long term side effects and syndromes caused by Omicron. The variant was discovered Dec 20. Whatever you’re claiming is based on previous variants which are not in circulation. > The vaccines dont reduce the risk of those two as good as the the other factors …. Okay, how much do the shots reduce your risk of “long COVID”? Look…

> Okay, how much do the shots reduce your risk of “long COVID”? Looking for quantifiable results from research, not your opinion Use google… its not my job to do it for you > Not my point, if you read more carefully. Can you quantify your risk of long term complications from a mild infection? How’s that compare to risk of car accident, sports injuries, cancer? I read carefully and it was your point. And again usw goo…

> People like you aint indivuals. You are all the same bunch with exact the same opinion and the same way of misunderstanding things. Dude you are totaly transparent

What's transparent is that nothing you've said is based on facts or rationality, it's just regurgitated hysterical opinion. And since you've been nothing but a childish and frankly rude idiot I'm not going to engage with you any further. Hope your little cold gets better soon.

Re: Omicron at 100% Prevalence, Colorado

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Post by ptaipale »

monological wrote: post #113
etchalon wrote: post #109

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I'm not sure if we can say it's "over". People were saying the same thing after the Delta waves started subsiding and behold … Omicron.

But now we’ll be able to reach herd immunity. Very mild and highly transmissible. This is the best possible outcome.

Herd immunity has been predicted since about May 2020 (in Sweden) and there is always far too optimism about it. We now know that a recovered infection does not produce permanent immunity.

Re: Omicron at 100% Prevalence, Colorado

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Post by brutal_chaos_ »

spurgu wrote: post #166
causality0 wrote: post #118

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You're missing the fact you can catch it over and over. My wife is currently battling Omicron after we both had covid at the start of last year. Fully vaccinated and boosted three weeks ago, caught it anyway. With an infected population this massive mutations happen fast enough to cause a new wave before the old one burns out.

I have omicron right now (4-5 months after 2nd jab, so pretty much no effect from that) and it's just like a common cold (certainly wouldn't call it "battling omicron"). I have zero problems with getting this each year.

You know what, I was unintentionally fear mongering. I'm glad you and others pointed that out. I did not make the connection between you having Omicron and the lack of Omicron in the paper (my nephew caught Delta...so that's where my concern lied). I hope you are still ok. :)

Re: Omicron at 100% Prevalence, Colorado

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Post by dwaltrip »

spurgu wrote: post #688
dwaltrip wrote: post #542

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For crying out loud… Go look up the frickin statistics. The vaccines are very effective.

Really? See https://vinayprasadmdmph.substack.com/p/vaccine-effectivenes... Those "frickin" statistics? Or which ones?

From own your link:

> [The] vaccines likely (and evidence shows they) still have great protection against severe disease; …

This exactly what we were talking about above.

Re: Omicron at 100% Prevalence, Colorado

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Post by spurgu »

dwaltrip wrote: post #694
spurgu wrote: post #688

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Really? See https://vinayprasadmdmph.substack.com/p/vaccine-effectivenes... Those "frickin" statistics? Or which ones?

From own your link: > [The] vaccines likely (and evidence shows they) still have great protection against severe disease; … This exactly what we were talking about above.

Like 15% effective, after 2 jabs, for me personally?

Re: Omicron at 100% Prevalence, Colorado

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Post by spurgu »

brutal_chaos_ wrote: post #693
spurgu wrote: post #166

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I have omicron right now (4-5 months after 2nd jab, so pretty much no effect from that) and it's just like a common cold (certainly wouldn't call it "battling omicron"). I have zero problems with getting this each year.

You know what, I was unintentionally fear mongering. I'm glad you and others pointed that out. I did not make the connection between you having Omicron and the lack of Omicron in the paper (my nephew caught Delta...so that's where my concern lied). I hope you are still ok. :)

I'm ok, tested negative today with a home test so I can finally go out and bother people again. ;)

Re: Omicron at 100% Prevalence, Colorado

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Post by ceejayoz »

spurgu wrote: post #695
dwaltrip wrote: post #694

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From own your link: > [The] vaccines likely (and evidence shows they) still have great protection against severe disease; … This exactly what we were talking about above.

Like 15% effective, after 2 jabs, for me personally?

On a personal level it's gonna be either 100% or 0%. You either got severe disease, or you didn't.

You can't extrapolate a population-level percentage from a single data point. Luckily, we've got information on hundreds of thousands of deaths, millions of hospitalizations, and billions of shots.

Re: Omicron at 100% Prevalence, Colorado

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Post by spurgu »

ceejayoz wrote: post #698
spurgu wrote: post #695

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Like 15% effective, after 2 jabs, for me personally?

On a personal level it's gonna be either 100% or 0%. You either got severe disease, or you didn't. You can't extrapolate a population-level percentage from a single data point. Luckily, we've got information on hundreds of thousands of deaths, millions of hospitalizations, and billions of shots.

That doesn't make any sense. If the immune response didn't wane on a personal level we wouldn't be needing any boosters.

Re: Omicron at 100% Prevalence, Colorado

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Post by ceejayoz »

spurgu wrote: post #699
ceejayoz wrote: post #698

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On a personal level it's gonna be either 100% or 0%. You either got severe disease, or you didn't. You can't extrapolate a population-level percentage from a single data point. Luckily, we've got information on hundreds of thousands of deaths, millions of hospitalizations, and billions of shots.

That doesn't make any sense. If the immune response didn't wane on a personal level we wouldn't be needing any boosters.

You can't get 15% of a case of severe COVID. At a personal level, the vaccine either worked at preventing it, or it didn't. We can compute a population-level probability of those two scenarios for you, but you can't really say "15% effective, after 2 jabs, for me personally".
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