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Kendo UI - a framework for modern HTML UI

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Re: Kendo UI - a framework for modern HTML UI

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Has anybody downloaded this yet? I see three css files and one minified js. What is the total size of all three of these?

The .js file is coming in at 233.85 kb when pulled from the CDN, but that's the whole framework. I think it's highly likely that they will create a modular packaging system so you can get just what you need.

The styles are under 70 kb combined.

Re: Kendo UI - a framework for modern HTML UI

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I apologize in advance if this opinion offends anyone, but every HTML UI kit that I've seen simply can't hold a candle to native kits such as WinForms, WPF or even Cocoa. I would really love a write-once browser based solution, but I just can't see that type of solution ever catching up to native tech. How long do we have to wait before the browser can catch up? Do you think it will ever happen? The closest thing tha…

I am working on a UI lib which is written in Javascript and completely painted on HTML5 canvas. I know, crazy idea... I got rid of the incompatibilities of the browsers, I got rid of DOM: I defined my own event system, component graph, etc... This will be someting like a traditional desktop component based UI, just in javascript, in the browser. Styling will be far more advanced than CSS: you can even inject a custom…

You have my attention. Does this project have any kind of Twitter or mailing list yet?

Re: Kendo UI - a framework for modern HTML UI

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I'd seriously consider using this, just because of the stagnancy of jQuery UI. It's a massive project with hundreds of long-open tickets (despite thousands of dollars spent on incentivizing developers over the summer through http://rewardjs.com/ ). 1.8 was released in March of 2010, and the last milestone release for 1.9 was back in May. To be fair, a lot of jQuery UI's development headaches come from supporting IE6,…

There seems to be some inconsistencies across the site including support for IE6. The demo page (http://demos.kendoui.com/) says it does while the overview page (http://www.kendoui.com/kendo-ui.aspx) says IE7+.

Weird.

Re: Kendo UI - a framework for modern HTML UI

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post #45
post #14

I apologize in advance if this opinion offends anyone, but every HTML UI kit that I've seen simply can't hold a candle to native kits such as WinForms, WPF or even Cocoa. I would really love a write-once browser based solution, but I just can't see that type of solution ever catching up to native tech. How long do we have to wait before the browser can catch up? Do you think it will ever happen? The closest thing tha…

I am working on a UI lib which is written in Javascript and completely painted on HTML5 canvas. I know, crazy idea... I got rid of the incompatibilities of the browsers, I got rid of DOM: I defined my own event system, component graph, etc... This will be someting like a traditional desktop component based UI, just in javascript, in the browser. Styling will be far more advanced than CSS: you can even inject a custom…

Looking forward to seeing this!

Re: Kendo UI - a framework for modern HTML UI

#57
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If you take away how this looks, and start digging into the project from a beginner's perspective, this project is awful. I find this with most of the supposed "UI frameworks" out there for HTML. With a few exceptions, they mostly lack: 1. Good documentation that doesn't just define the framework, but teaches you how to use it and get stuff done with it. Code already defines what it is, your docs should tell me why i…

I must admit that I haven't checked your list against the Kendo UI. However +1 for a nice description of how to present a framework to potential new users.

Re: Kendo UI - a framework for modern HTML UI

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post #31

Note: You cannnot use this library on your web site . The licensing agreement forbids you from redistributing the library, whether or not it's minified. It further states, "You are not allowed to integrate the Software into end products or use it for any commercial or productive purpose." So private deployment is out too. It's strictly for your own evaluation and amusement. http://www.kendoui.com/download/licenseagre…

After poking around on their website, I noticed that this library is being developed by Telerik ( http://www.telerik.com/ ), which is a pretty big vendor for .net libraries. The trouble is I don't think they have a library for MVC3-ish apps with a front-end focus. At my place of work, we are ditching the traditional asp.net development and porting our app to MVC3. In the switch our Telerik .net controls were no longe…

It's funny because Telerik's evangelist has been pushing HTML5 hard lately (http://www.telerikwatch.com/) and I found it curious because Telerik's current offerings are useless to anyone who wants to write an HTML5 solution on MVC (they do have a half hearted MVC project but it pales in comparison to the free solutions available for Javascript/JQuery development)

Re: Kendo UI - a framework for modern HTML UI

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post #32

If you take away how this looks, and start digging into the project from a beginner's perspective, this project is awful. I find this with most of the supposed "UI frameworks" out there for HTML. With a few exceptions, they mostly lack: 1. Good documentation that doesn't just define the framework, but teaches you how to use it and get stuff done with it. Code already defines what it is, your docs should tell me why i…

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Re: Kendo UI - a framework for modern HTML UI

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post #45
post #14

I apologize in advance if this opinion offends anyone, but every HTML UI kit that I've seen simply can't hold a candle to native kits such as WinForms, WPF or even Cocoa. I would really love a write-once browser based solution, but I just can't see that type of solution ever catching up to native tech. How long do we have to wait before the browser can catch up? Do you think it will ever happen? The closest thing tha…

I am working on a UI lib which is written in Javascript and completely painted on HTML5 canvas. I know, crazy idea... I got rid of the incompatibilities of the browsers, I got rid of DOM: I defined my own event system, component graph, etc... This will be someting like a traditional desktop component based UI, just in javascript, in the browser. Styling will be far more advanced than CSS: you can even inject a custom…

It will be interesting to see how you will deal with ADA guidelines.
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