Google doesn't want to pay Sonos for technology it copied
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Re: Google doesn't want to pay Sonos for technology it copied
#2Can you block devices from getting an "upgrade" which is basically a "downgrade"?
Re: Google doesn't want to pay Sonos for technology it copied
#3I really wish there would be some kind of overhaul in patents. Why was a patent for "The technology in question relates to the ability to connect speakers in groups and control their volume." ever granted? That seems like the very first thing you would do when connecting two speakers. Unless this is some kind of ai that tracks where you are and dynamically changes volumes to maintain a surround sound feel or something where is the novelty at?
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#4I really wish there would be some kind of overhaul in patents. Why was a patent for "The technology in question relates to the ability to connect speakers in groups and control their volume." ever granted? That seems like the very first thing you would do when connecting two speakers. Unless this is some kind of ai that tracks where you are and dynamically changes volumes to maintain a surround sound feel or somethin…
Came here to say the same thing. I'm the last fan of Google but "the ability to connect speakers in groups and control their volume" is obvious to conceive of and implement to any engineer with sufficient expertise in the field.
Re: Google doesn't want to pay Sonos for technology it copied
#5i doubt this is the end of it, i hope this gets overruled.
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#6Infringing on patents need not involve "copying" or "stolen technology", and shitty outlets like Inc. know their framing is BS.
Re: Google doesn't want to pay Sonos for technology it copied
#7I really wish there would be some kind of overhaul in patents. Why was a patent for "The technology in question relates to the ability to connect speakers in groups and control their volume." ever granted? That seems like the very first thing you would do when connecting two speakers. Unless this is some kind of ai that tracks where you are and dynamically changes volumes to maintain a surround sound feel or somethin…
From the article, I gathered that the patent isn't on the idea of doing so but the specific implementation. In short, Google took the knowledge they gained from the internals of how the Sonos speakers worked and copied that directly. This is a bit different from, say a patent on a virtual shopping cart where it's more the idea than how it's implemented.
Re: Google doesn't want to pay Sonos for technology it copied
#8Infringing on patents need not involve "copying" or "stolen technology", and shitty outlets like Inc. know their framing is BS.
I mean, it seems like Inc's pretty clear in their position that Google could just pay for the technology they infringed ("The company doesn't want to pay Sonos for technology it copied") rather than backtrack on features they promised their users, and it's a point that stands pretty well on its own without even needing a long article to back it, though this certainly helps their readers with the background behind what's going on.
I'm keen on seeing whether Google ends up on the receiving end of a class action suit for disabling features that were sold to customers and then disabled after the fact.
Re: Google doesn't want to pay Sonos for technology it copied
#9I really wish there would be some kind of overhaul in patents. Why was a patent for "The technology in question relates to the ability to connect speakers in groups and control their volume." ever granted? That seems like the very first thing you would do when connecting two speakers. Unless this is some kind of ai that tracks where you are and dynamically changes volumes to maintain a surround sound feel or somethin…
From the article, I gathered that the patent isn't on the idea of doing so but the specific implementation. In short, Google took the knowledge they gained from the internals of how the Sonos speakers worked and copied that directly. This is a bit different from, say a patent on a virtual shopping cart where it's more the idea than how it's implemented.
All patents are on the specific implementation, but patent attorneys work hard to ensure that the claims in the patent (the only part that matters) cover as broad an area as possible.
Re: Google doesn't want to pay Sonos for technology it copied
#10Infringing on patents need not involve "copying" or "stolen technology", and shitty outlets like Inc. know their framing is BS.
We may never know if Google used their special insider access with Sonos to steal technology or not. But the optics certainly don’t look good.