The problem I have with this and JQueryUI is that both are still too stylized such that they don't lend themselves well to being integrated into an existing design. And the JqueryUI themeroller doesn't help much. YUI probably does the best job of being generic enough to utilize broadly.
Kendo UI - a framework for modern HTML UI
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Re: Kendo UI - a framework for modern HTML UI
#42Seems like an obvious FAQ would be, "How does this compare to jQuery UI?".
It appears to be more oriented toward enterprises, who'd be happy to license this just for internal web apps. You've got Grid and Chart widgets (must-haves for internal sites that show business data), but no Datepicker (a must-have for consumer-facing sites).
I'm not sure I buy that. I've been looking at moving some of our antiquated Access reports to an intranet web form, and the first thing I needed was a datepicker.
Re: Kendo UI - a framework for modern HTML UI
#43Has anybody downloaded this yet? I see three css files and one minified js. What is the total size of all three of these?
Re: Kendo UI - a framework for modern HTML UI
#44I apologize in advance if this opinion offends anyone, but every HTML UI kit that I've seen simply can't hold a candle to native kits such as WinForms, WPF or even Cocoa. I would really love a write-once browser based solution, but I just can't see that type of solution ever catching up to native tech. How long do we have to wait before the browser can catch up? Do you think it will ever happen? The closest thing tha…
I think Sencha is possibly the closest to that for the web right now. I find it fairly similar to writing form-based desktop applications.
Sencha isn't even remotely cross-platform, with support restricted to the latest webkit-based browsers with decent CSS3 support. Sencha's UI is pretty bad on any other device but an iPhone.
Re: Kendo UI - a framework for modern HTML UI
#45I apologize in advance if this opinion offends anyone, but every HTML UI kit that I've seen simply can't hold a candle to native kits such as WinForms, WPF or even Cocoa. I would really love a write-once browser based solution, but I just can't see that type of solution ever catching up to native tech. How long do we have to wait before the browser can catch up? Do you think it will ever happen? The closest thing tha…
I am working on a UI lib which is written in Javascript and completely painted on HTML5 canvas. I know, crazy idea... I got rid of the incompatibilities of the browsers, I got rid of DOM: I defined my own event system, component graph, etc... This will be someting like a traditional desktop component based UI, just in javascript, in the browser. Styling will be far more advanced than CSS: you can even inject a custom paint method into a component from a stylesheet. (stylesheets will be javascript classes). Also it will have advanced dynamic layout. (min/max/preferred sizes, weights, gridpanel with colspan, rowspan, etc...)
I am doing it in my free time (at nights), because I have no funding: it is a quite huge undertaking: I am ready with 5300 lines of code, but I still need a couple of weeks just to release a very early demo. My secret aim is to make it a flash/flex killer in the long term. In the very long term:)
Re: Kendo UI - a framework for modern HTML UI
#46I apologize in advance if this opinion offends anyone, but every HTML UI kit that I've seen simply can't hold a candle to native kits such as WinForms, WPF or even Cocoa. I would really love a write-once browser based solution, but I just can't see that type of solution ever catching up to native tech. How long do we have to wait before the browser can catch up? Do you think it will ever happen? The closest thing tha…
Cappuccino is the best implementation out there, because the most important thing we strive for is conformance with Cocoa behavior. Cappuccino is certainly at par with Cocoa with most things.
Re: Kendo UI - a framework for modern HTML UI
#47Earlier quoted context omitted.
I think Sencha is possibly the closest to that for the web right now. I find it fairly similar to writing form-based desktop applications.
Sencha isn't even remotely cross-platform, with support restricted to the latest webkit-based browsers with decent CSS3 support. Sencha's UI is pretty bad on any other device but an iPhone.
It sounds like you're talking about Sencha Touch, which is very different from the desktop version (ExtJS).
Re: Kendo UI - a framework for modern HTML UI
#48If you take away how this looks, and start digging into the project from a beginner's perspective, this project is awful. I find this with most of the supposed "UI frameworks" out there for HTML. With a few exceptions, they mostly lack: 1. Good documentation that doesn't just define the framework, but teaches you how to use it and get stuff done with it. Code already defines what it is, your docs should tell me why i…
Hm.
If you look --> in the documentation <-- you find your first protest invalid. And in those docs you will find plenty of sample code, for your second protest, and examples (#3) to go with them (what is sample code if not an example?). #4 Protest too much? #5 Does a framework's theme need a template, too, or will a motif do?
Re: Kendo UI - a framework for modern HTML UI
#49The question I am asking myself right now is how did this project make it to the top slot of HN. It seems to be a re-hash of some standard frameworks, some bad documentation, some buggy widgets and be backed by a largish vendor. I hate to say it, but it reeks of a voting ring.
Re: Kendo UI - a framework for modern HTML UI
#50It actually looks pretty good and would save you a ton of time rather than trying to build some of these widgets yourself.
But are people willing to buy a framework like this? Or is everyone just using JQuery UI and leaving it at that?