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Student photographs people with hidden spy cam in the 1890s (2018)

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Post by mensetmanusman »

dorkwood wrote: post #16

The last photo of the man being affectionate with his young daughter is surprising to me. All my life, I've thought that men born before 1950, like my father, just didn't do that sort of thing. And yet here is a man born a hundred years earlier doing just that.

Post ww2 lots of parenting books said that you had to be super strict and harsh with your children, or else they would lose the next war with Russia or whoever because they would turn out soft.

It’s really fascinating, but losing millions of fathers in the war and then the post trauma strict parenting have had knock on effects we are still dealing with.

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Post by mensetmanusman »

olyjohn wrote: post #18
dragontamer wrote: post #7

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The change in "hat culture" is pretty incredible though. That's a LOT of hats!

They also seem to enjoy tipping their hats or lifting them momentarily as a greeting or hello.

Maybe our generation will embrace hybrid hazmat masks/hats like some blip of dystopian horror that future generations can look back on in amusement.

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Post by astura »

cmer wrote: post #59

Somewhat unrelated question that I could probably Google, but I figured it's more interesting to hear your take. Why do people on old pictures look like they're from a completely different era? They look like they're from the 1800s. Is it the camera, the clothing or did they actually look slightly different from us? Or perhaps it's just an illusion? Realistically I wouldn't expect humans' appearance to change that mu…

It's a combination of

1) the technology used to take the image (or video!)

2) the fashion of the subjects - Fashion includes more than just cloths.

3) the overall aesthetics of the scenery around the human subjects.

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Post by rjp0008 »

13of40 wrote: post #65
mgkimsal wrote: post #62

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For me it's usually more the quality of the film/print/color/etc. Most 70s pics have a certain color/tone/hue/saturation that says '70s'. 60s too. And so on. There may be easier determinations between 1920s and 1930s pics, perhaps, but not quickly to my eye. What's interesting about these is that... they're candid. Most 1800s photos were people explicitly sitting for a photo. Not smiling. Sitting, posing, very grim.…

The disturbing thing for me is that I noticed that special atmosphere/patina in 70s photos when I was a teenager in the 90s, but now I can see something analogous in pictures from the 90s.

The same thing will exist for people in 2010/2030 because of computational photography filters/algos.

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Post by progre »

thaumasiotes wrote: post #34
pessimizer wrote: post #8

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Without the posed stiffness, the major thing remaining that makes them look 19th century is that they're all drowning in cloth; lots of thick layers.

> the major thing remaining that makes them look 19th century is that they're all drowning in cloth; lots of thick layers. Aren't they in Oslo?

Most of these looks like early summer photos though. Temperatures likely around 20C.

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Post by reedjosh »

tagoregrtst wrote: post #53
dorkwood wrote: post #16

The last photo of the man being affectionate with his young daughter is surprising to me. All my life, I've thought that men born before 1950, like my father, just didn't do that sort of thing. And yet here is a man born a hundred years earlier doing just that.

A lot of our common conceptions of the past are flat out wrong. Often deliberate fabrications for political ends. Why wouldn't fathers, in general, be affectionate? The Bible (to take a very old book) if full of fatherly affection. Take the story of Abraham and his son to be sacrificed. The story has always been shocking because the reader knows the son was so wanted and loved and empathizes. Even the prejudice isn't…

I think politics are a big part, but I've been wondering a lot lately how much of this was leaded gasoline as well. Crime waves and angry parents could easily have been lead poisoning.
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