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More Americans are saying they’re ‘vaxxed and done’

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Re: More Americans are saying they’re ‘vaxxed and done’

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Post by misiti3780 »

aldebran wrote: post #910
misiti3780 wrote: post #901

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Totally, but that trust has been long gone in the US. 1/2 the population stopped paying attention to Dr. Fauci after he lied about masks (understandably). Then we were told that that funerals were bad, but outdoor protests were ok. Then it was racist to even consider the virus came from a lab leak. Then Fauci claimed that technically, he didn't fund gain of function research (in the most scripted,PR speak possible).…

What did Fauci lie about regarding masks? There were higher infection rates in other countries but Trump focused on China. That does sound racist given other comments he made. Biden Blocking SA flights was dumb given SA alerted the world but wasn’t necessarily the source of Omicron.

this isn't a deep fake: https://youtu.be/_2MmX2U2V3c?t=18

Re: More Americans are saying they’re ‘vaxxed and done’

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Post by Vecr »

kingsloi wrote: post #601
nradov wrote: post #326

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RSV is more dangerous than COVID-19 for most small children. We don't shut down society because of RSV. https://www.medscape.com/answers/971488-177692/what-is-the-p...

My little girl was eligible for the RSV vaccine, as she was immunocompromised. It sucks watching/hearing our friend's kids being hospitalised by it, knowing there's a vaccine for it, but it's so expensive ($3000-$6000 /yr /child), unless covered by insurance (if eligible), that it's out of reach for most families.

It's not a (active) vaccine, it's monoclonal antibodies, if it was a trial vaccine it would not cost that much.

Re: More Americans are saying they’re ‘vaxxed and done’

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Post by gremlinsinc »

afavour wrote: post #129

I'm vaxxed. I'm boosted. I'd very much like to be done. But my children cannot be vaccinated. As a parent of a young kid it kind of feels like everyone has just moved on. I know folks in here will tell me that statistically speaking my children are unlikely to be hospitalized and so on, and I agree. But I know enough kids who got COVID and suffered the symptoms (e.g. a months-long scratchy cough) that I'm not going t…

I've got a 3 and 4 year old...

I'm vaxxed and done (until booster time)... 4 yr old is ASD spectrum, can't really keep him out of school he needs to learn socialization skills, etc... 3yr old is way advanced verbally and starts preschool as soon as we can get him in.

I've kinda given up on worry, because there's really no way it hasn't already come around us. Maybe during allergy season in the fall when we all were sick'ish. Or maybe some fluke it hasn't - but my county has 42% vax rate, so doubt it (Utah).

I just can't mentally focus on it anymore (anxiety kills too), and statistically we're better off than before the boosters.... so in my brain it's over...for us.

We probably should go back to masking up, and have thought about it. Really can't get myself motivated to even decide if it's worth it... I have ADHD and my exec/function motivation is suffering bad lately from the stress.

I think people are literally idiots who aren't vaxxed, and I wouldn't be so cavalier if we weren't...my biggest fears were not so much my kids getting sick but my kids growing up orphaned by Covid. They already lost a grandma (Cancer+lack of decent availability to treatment during covid). If my wife and I passed in our sleep, I can't imagine what would happen to the boys all by themselves until someone checks in on them...

I'm glad that fear is mostly off the table (I mean -- death is always lurking....but not like before).

Re: More Americans are saying they’re ‘vaxxed and done’

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Post by Animats »

valachio wrote: post #608
twblalock wrote: post #577

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> The next generation in vaccine technology is the US Army / Walter Reed Medical Center broad-spectrum vaccine. This should protect against all COVID and SARS variants.[3] That's in Phase I safety testing, with about 75 volunteers. If that works, the problem is solved. Sure, until the next variant. The problem of the spread was mostly solved by vaccines before Omicron, at least for people who got the vaccines. Then O…

It ends when people say it ends. There will always be natural disasters, whether it's earthquakes or viruses. If it's a new virus, yes people are going to die, yes hospitals are going to be overwhelmed (in fact I would be surprised if hospitals aren't overwhelmed when a new virus hits, which just means that hospital was over-funded and has too many idle staff). The virus was a creation of nature (conspiracy theories…

“This is not the end, this is not even the beginning of the end, this is just perhaps the end of the beginning.” - Churchill.

That was November 1942, with victory almost three years away. By that point, the Allies had stopped Axis advances, but were not yet taking back ground.

Re: More Americans are saying they’re ‘vaxxed and done’

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Post by Zanneth »

ipython wrote: post #894
mizzack wrote: post #246

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You've got your anecdotes, and I've got mine. My 3 young kids all caught omicron last week. Each were lethargic for a day, had a minor sore throat, and were back to normal in a day or two. The flu last month was way scarier with high fevers. There's a lot of reason to be optimistic about omicron.

Ok great and all but the bigger problem is now the kids are home for a week - mild symptoms or not. You can’t send your COVID positive kids to daycare no matter how great they feel. The real tragedy here is the toll this takes on parents who otherwise could work full time. Even if they never contract COVID, you still have to worry and plan around the unknowable - can I take that meeting two weeks from now? I may have…

How is this reaction different from other respiratory illnesses? You wouldn't send your kids to a daycare with the flu either, right?

Re: More Americans are saying they’re ‘vaxxed and done’

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Post by skyde »

hnuser847 wrote: post #834
standardUser wrote: post #742

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"...consideration for personal liberty has gone by the wayside..." Can you truly say these things with a straight face, in light of the countless laws banning voluntary consumption of drugs and the millions of harsh prison sentences that have been handed out for breaking those laws? People literally lose their freedom - they are put in poorly-maintained cages - for exercising their personal liberty in that fashion. T…

Both liberals and conservatives are massive hypocrites. Neither ideology has a consistent set of beliefs when it comes to personal liberty. Both will use arguments from personal liberty when it's for something they support and will conveniently forgot about those arguments for issues they don't support. Liberals support "my body, my choice" when it comes to abortions, but they don't want you to have a choice over whe…

What is your definition of mandate?

Im also anti-mandate but certain job should require you to wash your hands with soap and be vaccinated to keep your job (teacher, nurse, doctor ..) but nobody is forcing you to choose those jobs.

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Post by drewrv »

rhino369 wrote: post #452
afavour wrote: post #129

I'm vaxxed. I'm boosted. I'd very much like to be done. But my children cannot be vaccinated. As a parent of a young kid it kind of feels like everyone has just moved on. I know folks in here will tell me that statistically speaking my children are unlikely to be hospitalized and so on, and I agree. But I know enough kids who got COVID and suffered the symptoms (e.g. a months-long scratchy cough) that I'm not going t…

You'll drive yourself crazy focusing on every minor risk for children. COVID risk for unvaxed kids is the same as fully vaxed 40 years and much lower than fully vaxed seniors. If you want to do some productive worrying, figure out how to reduce your child's risk of dying in a car crash. That's much more of a risk. >Moderna was supposed to close out a trial in late November but instead expanded it to hundreds of new p…

> figure out how to reduce your child's risk of dying in a car crash

Most parents already do some form of this. Car seats, booster seats, researching crash test data....

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Post by kingsloi »

Vecr wrote: post #932
kingsloi wrote: post #601

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My little girl was eligible for the RSV vaccine, as she was immunocompromised. It sucks watching/hearing our friend's kids being hospitalised by it, knowing there's a vaccine for it, but it's so expensive ($3000-$6000 /yr /child), unless covered by insurance (if eligible), that it's out of reach for most families.

It's not a (active) vaccine, it's monoclonal antibodies, if it was a trial vaccine it would not cost that much.

Sorry, it was naive of me to call it a vaccine, it’s just what it was referred to, or RSV shot. There are vaccines for RSV in the works though, hopefully give people better access to preventive medicine

Re: More Americans are saying they’re ‘vaxxed and done’

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Post by pseudalopex »

pessimizer wrote: post #398
nodamage wrote: post #136

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> CDC has now said that the majority of those that died had 4+ co-morbidities. This is in reference to a specific study that followed 1.2M fully vaccinated individuals and found that 28 of the 36 deaths had at least 4 high-risk factors ( https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/71/wr/mm7101a4.htm ). They are not referring to the unvaccinated who still have a much higher risk of hospitalization and death.

Your quote is from the end of a sentence that began with someone explaining that they were triple-vaxed. Seems like the perfect study to help them make decisions. The unvaccinated are unvaccinated. They know what they're getting into (even if they deny it), and they don't believe studies anyway. Once they catch it a couple of times, they'll be as good as vaxed anyway. edit: if there's anything that should be done abo…

> Your quote is from the end of a sentence that began with someone explaining that they were triple-vaxed. Seems like the perfect study to help them make decisions.

The quote was the whole sentence. And the following sentences implied they meant everyone. The clarification was important.

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