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The Matrix Resurrections estimated to lose Warner Bros $100M

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Re: The Matrix Resurrections estimated to lose Warner Bros $100M

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Post by oliyoung »

blhack wrote: post #18
fishtoaster wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Any reason to believe that this is an instance of Hollywood Accounting? At a glance, wikipedia says the film cost $190m, which seems reasonable for a film like this, and only received $124.5m in box office sales. Conversely, wikipedia lists Harry Potter OotP as a "150–200 million" budget on $942m in box office sales. It's certainly possible this is a case of Hollywood Accounting, but is there any particular reason we…

How much did HBO pay for the streaming rights? I would have bought 3 tickets to this, but watched it on HBO instead.

> How much did HBO pay for the streaming rights?

They wouldn't -have paid- anything, HBO is owned by Warner too

edit: ...they wouldn't have to have paid anything..

Re: The Matrix Resurrections estimated to lose Warner Bros $100M

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Post by cheschire »

sydthrowaway wrote: post #21

This movie had to be a troll. The ending cover song of RATM's "Wake Up" was just something else.

So at first I dismissed your comment and moved on. But then I realized... maybe this was a troll? If WB really did try to strong arm her into making another one, this feels like the perfect response. "Sure, I'll make another one..." and then proceeds to make sure they never make a 5th.

On the other hand, she has said in interviews that she was motivated by a personal loss to reach out and try to make it. Not sure who actually initiated trying to get the movie made as I've heard both versions now.

Re: The Matrix Resurrections estimated to lose Warner Bros $100M

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Post by echelon »

monkeybutton wrote: post #17
anm89 wrote: post #7

They killed the matrix with 2 and 3 being so terrible. that ship had sailed

Its not like they redeemed themselves since 2 and 3 either; Jupiter Ascending was trash. What did people expect?

V for Vendetta is classic.

Cloud Atlas is one of my favorite films of all time. It's incredibly divisive, but if you appreciate its deep symbolism and rich interwoven storytelling, it's beautiful. The wide dynamic range of genres it attempts to fit - romance, comedy, science fiction, murder mystery, spy thriller - is not only ambitious, but absolutely works to establish the symphony of it all.

Resurrections surpasses the mediocre second and third Matrix films and manages to troll both the studio and the audience in a deliberately tongue in cheek, yet equally trippy way. It's clever for working with the tools they had.

Re: The Matrix Resurrections estimated to lose Warner Bros $100M

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Post by mraudiobook_com »

cheschire wrote: post #25
blhack wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How much did HBO pay for the streaming rights? I would have bought 3 tickets to this, but watched it on HBO instead.

yep. i watched it at least 3 times on hbo as well. easily would've bought a couple tickets.

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Re: The Matrix Resurrections estimated to lose Warner Bros $100M

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Post by blhack »

oliyoung wrote: post #41
blhack wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How much did HBO pay for the streaming rights? I would have bought 3 tickets to this, but watched it on HBO instead.

> How much did HBO pay for the streaming rights? They wouldn't -have paid- anything, HBO is owned by Warner too edit: ...they wouldn't have to have paid anything..

Oh very interesting! I wonder how that looks from an accounting/profitability perspective?

Re: The Matrix Resurrections estimated to lose Warner Bros $100M

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Post by bmurphy1976 »

samspenc wrote: post #9

Doesn't HBO Max streaming somewhat counteract the losses in the theater? When HBO & Warner Bros decided to release all their movies on big screen and streaming at the same time for 2021 (only), part of it was a play to increase their streaming app subscription base? I know that we got a family subscription to HBO Max for exactly this as the main reason. I would be interested in understanding how the increased revenue…

I am finally going to get a subscription specifically because of this movie. I can't be the only one.

Re: The Matrix Resurrections estimated to lose Warner Bros $100M

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Post by Apocryphon »

babyshake wrote: post #3

Space Jam: A New Legacy, The Suicide Squad, Tenet, the Matrix. Not a great run for WB.

I wonder if this is good news for Dune's future, as it was one of the few bright spots from WB's "stream on HBO Max concurrently" strategy.

Re: The Matrix Resurrections estimated to lose Warner Bros $100M

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Post by azekai »

thatcherc wrote: post #23
lliamander wrote: post #8

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Did Tenet lose money? That was a great movie.

Lots! It made $363 million off a $200 million budget [1]. That's probably lower than the studio expected for such a big movie, but still a solid profit and especially good in today's post(?)-covid box office. [1] - https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tenet_(film)

A general rule of thumb is a movie needs to make back double its budget to recoup after-filming costs, like advertising, ect to start turning a profit. A $363 million return on a $200 million flick is not a good return.

Re: The Matrix Resurrections estimated to lose Warner Bros $100M

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Post by Apocryphon »

monkeybutton wrote: post #17
anm89 wrote: post #7

They killed the matrix with 2 and 3 being so terrible. that ship had sailed

Its not like they redeemed themselves since 2 and 3 either; Jupiter Ascending was trash. What did people expect?

Everyone forgets about the avant-garde energy that was Speed Racer.
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