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A man who lives in a Boeing 727 in Oregon (2020)

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Re: A man who lives in a Boeing 727 in Oregon (2020)

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I've been to this guys place. Nicest guy. But he is absolutely surrounded by "Trump Nation" people (their flags are everywhere out there) who hate him. Every time he leaves home his place is vandalized. Just before I visited someone had waited till he was gone and then dumped truck loads of some kind of poison all over his grounds. He was going through and sifting it out of the soil by hand. It is incredible how chee…

I live in Portland but spend most weekends at my gf's house in the country, near Chehalem, about a 15 minute drive from where the airplane is. It's a weird mix out there, because it's also wine country, so you have a lot of very wealthy landowners - some of whom aren't quite "locals" and are more socially liberal. The locals can really get into your business, though. Among other things, in our situation, some of the…

> I tried going to an accountant out there and when I walked into her office for the first meeting, she was wearing a large gold swastika necklace.

> It's manageable as long as you never get into conversations about politics and treat everyone with respect.

I mean, I'm going to have a hard time treating a person wearing a swastika necklace with respect - I'm going to let them know that I will not be using their services and the reason why. I hope you walked out of there and found the services of a different accountant.

(I live in Beaverton and once you get out of the Portland metro area things get pretty maga-hatty. We were planning a trip to Coos Bay a few months back and decided against it partly because COVID was raging down there then but also because of concerns of potential political violence in some of the areas between here and there. Oregon is definitely a state with some pretty wide extremes.)

Re: A man who lives in a Boeing 727 in Oregon (2020)

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I've been to this guys place. Nicest guy. But he is absolutely surrounded by "Trump Nation" people (their flags are everywhere out there) who hate him. Every time he leaves home his place is vandalized. Just before I visited someone had waited till he was gone and then dumped truck loads of some kind of poison all over his grounds. He was going through and sifting it out of the soil by hand. It is incredible how chee…

Why do they hate him?

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Re: A man who lives in a Boeing 727 in Oregon (2020)

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I've been to this guys place. Nicest guy. But he is absolutely surrounded by "Trump Nation" people (their flags are everywhere out there) who hate him. Every time he leaves home his place is vandalized. Just before I visited someone had waited till he was gone and then dumped truck loads of some kind of poison all over his grounds. He was going through and sifting it out of the soil by hand. It is incredible how chee…

I live in Portland but spend most weekends at my gf's house in the country, near Chehalem, about a 15 minute drive from where the airplane is. It's a weird mix out there, because it's also wine country, so you have a lot of very wealthy landowners - some of whom aren't quite "locals" and are more socially liberal. The locals can really get into your business, though. Among other things, in our situation, some of the…

It all sounds so depressing and off the rails. Armed checkpoints, swastikas, outlandish beliefs. You hear about '2 americas' and see that people voted for trump, but hearing details like this makes the divide seem much starker.

Re: A man who lives in a Boeing 727 in Oregon (2020)

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Amazing to see that the plane belonged to Olympic airlines. This was an airline started by Aristotle Onassis which later became tha national carrier of Greece, and finally merged with Aegean airlines. How it ended up in oregon ... another matter.

This is literally the airplane that carried Onassis’s body after he died. The owner of the plane won’t let you sit in the seat where Jackie sat during that flight.

Re: A man who lives in a Boeing 727 in Oregon (2020)

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I've been to this guys place. Nicest guy. But he is absolutely surrounded by "Trump Nation" people (their flags are everywhere out there) who hate him. Every time he leaves home his place is vandalized. Just before I visited someone had waited till he was gone and then dumped truck loads of some kind of poison all over his grounds. He was going through and sifting it out of the soil by hand. It is incredible how chee…

Time to buy a trail cam. They're not expensive.

No point. The Police in the area are the same people as the Trump nation people. They won’t do anything against their own.

Re: A man who lives in a Boeing 727 in Oregon (2020)

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I've been to this guys place. Nicest guy. But he is absolutely surrounded by "Trump Nation" people (their flags are everywhere out there) who hate him. Every time he leaves home his place is vandalized. Just before I visited someone had waited till he was gone and then dumped truck loads of some kind of poison all over his grounds. He was going through and sifting it out of the soil by hand. It is incredible how chee…

Time to buy a trail cam. They're not expensive.

And do what with it? Send the data to the police to do what with? Their job? You never know if the LEOs might not just feel the same way and are deliberately looking the other way.

Re: A man who lives in a Boeing 727 in Oregon (2020)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I live in Portland but spend most weekends at my gf's house in the country, near Chehalem, about a 15 minute drive from where the airplane is. It's a weird mix out there, because it's also wine country, so you have a lot of very wealthy landowners - some of whom aren't quite "locals" and are more socially liberal. The locals can really get into your business, though. Among other things, in our situation, some of the…

It all sounds so depressing and off the rails. Armed checkpoints, swastikas, outlandish beliefs. You hear about '2 americas' and see that people voted for trump, but hearing details like this makes the divide seem much starker.

> but hearing details like this makes the divide seem much starker.

I'm in a deeply red part of the country, most of my neighbors (all of whom are non-white) are hardcore Trump supporters. Exactly zero behave or talk like this. I am not saying what the grandparent described is false, rather I would suggest that the current political zeitgeist is exceptionally reactionary. In a state like Oregon, in a small town just outside Portland, a legendarily kooky Left-wing enclave, that the folks who are on the Right are significantly more "out there" than is typical. Meanwhile, I'm in a heavily red area of a heavily red state and nobody feels the need to be "out there" because the localized norm is being on the Right.

So, I won't say that the divide isn't quite stark, but I think it's easy to look at the most extreme examples from each side and see the chasm that separates, which can lead to imagining a much bigger divide than actually exists. Political zealotry operates on a bell curve like pretty much anything else involving people.

Re: A man who lives in a Boeing 727 in Oregon (2020)

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I've visited Bruce and his home as well, and it's almost startling how welcoming he is. When I went, it was the middle of a nice afternoon, and so he already happened to be outside conversing with some other guests, but if you poke around on his website, you'll find that he essentially says "if you come for a visit and I'm not around, climb up on the wing and come bang on my airplane until you wake me up." Was only t…

Turns out I live a modest drive away -- this encourages me to make the trip!

Re: A man who lives in a Boeing 727 in Oregon (2020)

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post #14

I've visited Bruce and his home as well, and it's almost startling how welcoming he is. When I went, it was the middle of a nice afternoon, and so he already happened to be outside conversing with some other guests, but if you poke around on his website, you'll find that he essentially says "if you come for a visit and I'm not around, climb up on the wing and come bang on my airplane until you wake me up." Was only t…

I dug into this because I live in Oregon and was thinking about checking it out for a giggle, but for real, his website: https://airplanehome.com/VisitorsInformation.html#Anchor12

Really does insist that if you show up (even unannounced) to climb up on his airplane and bang on it/yell until he comes out: "Please do wake me boldly sans any regrets."

I might have to head out there as it's basically a suburb of Portland where I live.

He seems like a very kind eccentric.

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