The author missed one point about the 'vaxxed and done'... some actively WANT the virus to spread at this point. If everyone is going to get it, then there is an argument to be made to just "get it over with". There are valid reasons to wait (hospital concerns, availability of Paxlovid), but there are also valid reasons to want this done now. The cost of waiting is high. The US is only expected to have 10m courses of Paxlovid by June. For a population of 330M, this means less than 1 in 30 people would even have access to it.
More Americans are saying they’re ‘vaxxed and done’
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#782Between the 2nd dose putting me in the ER with myocarditis which no one warned me about the risk of, and a $3500 medical bill due, being told I could be maskless and free if I got the "vaccine"[1], getting covid anyways and it being nbd, and then learning that the CDC redefined the meaning of "vaccine" for this treatment[2] (imo "immunotherapy" would be a more understandable word) -- yeah I'm done. I'm not risking an…
Anyone got a conversion of $3500 to Euro?
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#783I've gone through cycles with this. Mostly I am done arguing. I hate arguing about this. It's just more of the culture war shit that so many different media sources love pushing to keep people amped up. I double vaxxed and boosted. Stopped wearing a mask for the most part, but with Omicron I started wearing a mask again because I just don't want this stupid virus. I'm healthy and would probably not have a symptomatic…
The virus isn't going away. No matter what you do with masks and other measures you'll eventually be exposed. The most you can do is delay it a bit. https://www.medpagetoday.com/opinion/vinay-prasad/94646
You may want to be exposed and catch it less often though.
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So I'll ask the same question that I've yet to receive a concrete response to: How long is long enough before you'll trust the vaccine? A solid number, in years please. Every anti-vaxxer I've asked that to has hand-waved the question away, because they know if they say something like "I need a minimum of 20 years before I'll trust a vaccine" they'll sound paranoid, which they are. Also their timespan is almost certai…
I'm vaccinated, but I would go with some thing along the lines of 10-20 years. That is when we will actually have long term data. Until then, it is all predictions and assumptions, however well informed.
I work in medical R&D and there is a long history of drugs and products with delayed failure and unintended consequences. I think the chances are low, but anyone who claims they are zero is lying.
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Are you saying that until young kids can get vaccinated, it is not safe enough to remove shutdown protocols for preschools? Parent of 2 very young kids here btw - it's been brutal, I feel your pain. Frankly, our kids get enough other diseases from nursery that a months-long scratchy cough doesn't sound too terrifying.
The challenge is the lack of data on long-term effects of COVID. Preliminary studies have linked it to cognitive declines [1], diabetes [2], and chronic fatigue [3]. And while death from COVID in a preschooler is about a 1-in-100,000 occurrence, long COVID and other chronic outcomes seem to be much more common. I've heard figures of about 5% or 1 in 20. Few parents would willingly sign their preschooler (or themselve…
what are the long term effects of all the other BS young kids are subjected to as a result of all of this?
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We all know that most people get COVID and then get over it, but using a few neutral anecdotes to deny the other issues is like trying to invalidate global warming because the weather isn’t hot where you live. It’s not about comparing all of our anecdotes.
It's the opposite, actually. People worried about Covid with kids are the ones saying that there is no global warming because it isn't hot by them. Statistics are backing up how little effect Covid has on kids (fortunately) - it is anecdotes that are scaring people.
Can't just dismiss the dramatic rise in children hospitalized for covid as "anecdotes".
In New York, hospitalizations among kids quadrupled.
In Washington DC, children’s hospital admissions have roughly doubled.
In Texas, children’s hospitalizations were described as “staggering”.
In Alabama, cases were “like a rocket ship”.
In Louisiana, one doctor said: “We’ve never seen anything like it.”
In Ohio, one associate professor of internal medicine and pediatrics critical care recently told ABC news: “We’re on fire.”
Source: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/jan/05/covid-hospit...
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Singapore as well as Gibraltar are nearly 100% vaccinated, but are still seeing huge covid outbreaks. The best option is early treatment by stocking up on one out of several early treatments that exist and locating a hospital that will give monoclonal antibodies in case your kid gets Delta. Learn more about early treatment options and the science around them here [1] [1] https://open.spotify.com/episode/0aZte37vtFTkY…
The Delta variant is nearly extinct. Omicron has taken over.
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#788Between the 2nd dose putting me in the ER with myocarditis which no one warned me about the risk of, and a $3500 medical bill due, being told I could be maskless and free if I got the "vaccine"[1], getting covid anyways and it being nbd, and then learning that the CDC redefined the meaning of "vaccine" for this treatment[2] (imo "immunotherapy" would be a more understandable word) -- yeah I'm done. I'm not risking an…
The CDC's explanation "interpreted to mean that vaccines were 100% effective, which has never been the case for any vaccine, so the current definition is more transparent, and also describes the ways in which vaccines can be administered" is totally on point and correct. People didn't really think about vaccines before and it wasn't a political thing where people are looking for gotchas like "They changed the definition of vaccine!" Before this age, you could just simply say "Yeah, vaccines give you immunity" and didn't need to be hyperacurrate but now everything is scrutinized, even when they provide a better definition apparently.
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#789"Vaxxed and done" is a strange label for this sentiment:
"For more than a year, I did everything that public-health authorities told me to do. I wore masks. I canceled vacations. I made sacrifices. I got vaccinated. I got boosted. I’m happy to get boosted again."
I was expecting the article to be about people who, like me, are vaxxed and boosted and not really interested in getting more shots for this every six months perpetually.
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#790I don't want to talk about vaccines anymore. Whatever study people have to cherry pick or whatever beliefs you may hold, whatever your stance is, most people have made the decision on whether or not to be vaccinated. What I wish we focused on instead, is the medical system as a whole. We've been hearing stories everyday about how hospitals are on the brink of collapse. Why, in 2 years of this pandemic, have we not de…
Thank you. I've also been trying to get this across to other people as well. And here's the worst part. If and when another high-spread virus emerges in the future, there will not be a vaccine available at the beginning, which is also when hospital overwhelming is most critical. So we will be in the exact same situation. I can't believe no one is talking about improving the hospital infrastructure to handle the inevitable next virus. Are there things happening in this regard and I am just out of the loop?