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>> That’s why we are still in this pandemic. Too many selfish assholes. Are you really saying that 'suggesting optimism' is equivalent to being a "selfish asshole"? I do not understand your application of logic here. Are you also saying that a particular course-of-action would have resulted in an "end to the pandemic" by this point in time?
I know everyone is tired of this shit but I just want to remind everyone of one thing: This is the FIRST time humanity has come together and actually come up with a way to beat a virus WHILE a global pandemic is still ongoing. At no other time in history have we even had the option of a solid way to protect ourselves like we do now. I think instead of focusing on how awful the past few years have been this is an impo…
I'm not convince we did beat it. For decades people would ask, "why is there no vaccine for the cold or flu like smallpox, measles, mumps, rubella, and chicken pox?" and the answer was that they were fast evolving corona viruses and you cannot vaccinate for those. Then suddenly we have one this time. But it's efficacy drops - according to Pfizer's own trial - to ~47% after six months. And people "double vaxxed and bo…
I would suggest doing some research on Google. We’ve had vaccines for influenza (flu) for over 70 years.
And yes, sometimes their efficacy was under 50% but they’ve always been called vaccines and have saved thousands of lives.
I'm vaxxed. I'm boosted. I'd very much like to be done. But my children cannot be vaccinated. As a parent of a young kid it kind of feels like everyone has just moved on. I know folks in here will tell me that statistically speaking my children are unlikely to be hospitalized and so on, and I agree. But I know enough kids who got COVID and suffered the symptoms (e.g. a months-long scratchy cough) that I'm not going t…
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Tangentially, I recently moved to Canada and was surprised by the lack of quality healthcare.. Literally could not believe some walk ins have paper files and use fax, plus finding a GP apparently is a months long quest. Visiting a specialist took ages, and I wouldn’t say it was the best / most modern infrastructure there either. (And I went in downtown Toronto, must be so much worse for more remote places I guess). I…
I guess I’ll provide a counterpoint that I have been incredibly impressed with the quality of Canadian healthcare after my sister had kidney failure, was on dialysis for a year, then received a timely transplant from me and neither of us paid a dime. This was in Manitoba. She still has to pay for her medication, though - hopefully pharmacare passes in the near future. Meanwhile down here in the US I was charged $150…
To be honest, I don't think it is unreasonable to pay $150 for a nurse's/doctor's time to examine you. I've gone to urgent care and the ER a few times, and they're always filled with people who are there for non-issues. If it was totally free, you'd have them filled with people with things that should really just be handled by a regular doctor's appointment.
Hell, my local hospital had to make a public statement for people to stop going to the ER just to get COVID tests.
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RSV is more dangerous than COVID-19 for most small children. We don't shut down society because of RSV. https://www.medscape.com/answers/971488-177692/what-is-the-p...
How is it so hard for you people to understand that we shut down society because the health system is stressed at unforeseen levels? I mean just ask your fellow emergency workers how their life is right now.
I have no idea what these asymptomatic folks are wasting hospital resources for
[1] https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/coronavirus/ny-covid-cases-t...
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RSV is more dangerous than COVID-19 for most small children. We don't shut down society because of RSV. https://www.medscape.com/answers/971488-177692/what-is-the-p...
And we aren’t shutting society down because of the risk of C19 to small children either. The risk to children is part of that, but the risk to the adults who care for them is another reason. Additionally, staffing levels are impacted because the adults who have it. Also, generically, when we have a super spreadable disease, we want to minimize transmission. This is done as a precaution against mutation (the more infe…
The point of the remaining ones is to not send people to hospital and spread it out some until we get antivirals.
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the bigger problem is that their initial selling point for the vaccine was "get your 2 shots and everything goes back to normal". Many people grudgingly got it despite some hesitancy and now have even less trust of the government now that the goal posts are shifting yet again
It COULD have been "get your 2 shots and everything goes back to normal", but vaccine adoption stalled at about 60%. That's not nearly high enough. The virus stuck around and we got Delta, and now Omicron. And we're STILL at less than 70% vaccinated. I don't know what's required for herd immunity, but it doesn't take a Ph.D in virology to know that 70% isn't it.
So I'm not sure what the intended end game of the people trying to limit the spread is. "Flatten the peak so hospitals are less likely to be overwhelmed" may or may not be realistic, but at least it's a coherent goal. "Keep vaccinating and closing things until COVID goes to zero on its own" just seems like denying the reality that COVID is endemic at this point, so any non-acute mitigation measures we want to take now had better be mitigation measures we're willing to keep taking forever.
To a certain extent, I blame the use of the term "reaching herd immunity" instead of "reaching an endemic state" for giving people unrealistic expectations.
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wow, you just had a really awful covid experience despite having all preventive measures in place, and now that you're "done" it's time to take off the masks for everyone? thanks for "letting the chips fall where they may" on everyone else who still would much prefer not to get sick and risk long covid but I will keep the mask on for now, thanks
> everyone else who still would much prefer not to get sick and risk long covid but I will keep the mask on for now, thanks But what's the plan? Covid is showing no signs of going away. If things stay the same, is your stance going to change in a year? 3? 5?
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Are the children in this trial part of high risk groups? I guess I am quite surprised to hear that there are drug trials for healthy children that young. In this case, the risk/reward seems very imbalanced almost to the point being unethical.
No, the kids in this study were not specifically recruited from high-risk groups. There are trials for all sorts of drugs for all ages. Generally they’ll “walk down” the age spectrum, ie start with adults, then teens, then younger kids. Pfizer is running a vaccine study for <6-month olds, too. Covid is less of a risk for little kids, but it’s not zero risk, and I’d rather my kids not be immunologically naïve when the…
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I kind of regret even mentioning the effects of COVID in my original comment as I figured there would be a reply like yours and you're not wrong! But it wasn't the main point I was trying to make. My main point is that everyone just seems to have moved on from under 5s. We've adopted a stance of "vaxxed and done" for adults and older children and paid no attention to the vax trials for under 5s taking forever. It's b…
I'm in the same place with my kids and I feel similarly. I feel you on the replies here too. I get it, there are greater risks, but that doesn't mean this isn't stressful along with everything else going on. Anyway, I hope this is the tail end of these worries and hope your family has a healthy 2022.