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Blame Cronyism, Not Capitalism

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Re: Blame Cronyism, Not Capitalism

#111

Cronyism is the logical conclusion of capitalism.

Could you elaborate how? Is this specific to capitalism? or is cronyism the logical conclusion of any societal system that lasts for a while? For example, and just to choose an example that is obviously not capitalist, would you say cronyism wouldn't happen in a communist society? As far as I understand, it very much happened in the URSS. I'm not bashing on communism, just trying to understand your statement.

Capitalism rewards owning capital heavily, so it naturally trends towards wealth concentrating. The argument against this is to regulate it, but overtime, you'll always end up trending towards capital becoming more powerful then the regulators. You'll always have Capital just buying the regulators, basically. You can have "resets" (like the Great Depression and WWII) that maybe fix this a little bit temporarily, but it'll end up going back to cronyism again as power (i.e. Capital) starts concentrating again.

Cronyism can exist in an economic system where there are positions of power. However, if you were to limit position of power, I believe you could make an economic system more resilient to cronyism. Obviously systems like the USSR had positions of extreme power so it was very prone to cronyism.

Re: Blame Cronyism, Not Capitalism

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post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's not very constructive, is it? "It's human nature to be exploited" Then again, not a lot seem to happen when pointing at short-comings or issues of prioritizing profit and growth above all else in society either.

It is very constructive because it points to the actual root of the problem so we can begin to solve it. Laws and regulation that prevent cronyism are the solution.

Except humans, business and politics are far too complex to encapsulate in laws, at least in their current format.

Look at a "simple" case in the news today. Several men who were abused in the 1970s have lost their case against Manchester City Football club who they say were responsible for the "scout" who abused them. If it was really simple, there would be no case. However, the Judge rules that at the time of the abuse, the man (who is currently in prison) was not officially a member of Man City staff so they are not liable vicariously for his actions.

I think something that is lacking in the UK at least, is more like a Charter for Society. What is it that we accept and don't accept. It would be much easier in Court if a ruling is made not just on the letter of a law that might not have thought of the specific scenario, not on common law of something that was close enough to this case but on whether it violates the charter.

Don't know, just a thought.

Re: Blame Cronyism, Not Capitalism

#114
It seems like cronyism can manifest in any system just as well as capitalism. Collectivist-isms are just as susceptible, and are perhaps more susceptible given their inherent dependence on the state's management of capital and resources. What do you think?

Re: Blame Cronyism, Not Capitalism

#115

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The incentive for lobbying would remain and turn more deeply to black markets. To end lobbying you'd need to remove the incentive for lobbyists to seduce lawmakers. Instead, remove the power of lawmakers or reduce/decentralize the power as much as pragmatically possible.

In Plato's ideal republic the lawmakers, or protectors, were instead removed from society living in a parallel society dedicated to service. Therefore they would be incorruptable, or difficult to corrupt.

Which leads to Nassim Taleb's "no skin in the game" problem.

Re: Blame Cronyism, Not Capitalism

#116

Whats the cause of amazon workers reportedly having to pee in bottles? Is that the government? Capitalism is just evolution without physical war. It has the same beauty and horror as a lion eating a gazelle alive.

What is the cause of the worker who needs to pay the boss a $1,000 bribe to get a lucrative job in a communist system? Is that the government?

Re: Blame Cronyism, Not Capitalism

#117
"Government casuses cronyism -- especially anti-cronyism laws". What should the role of government be? I guess the authors would say: Governments should be replaced with financial modeling. I'm not convinced.

There's something fundamentally undemocratic (and perhaps, sadly, realistic) about this take. Will advocating for broad de-regulation and business rule actually reduce cronism? Will it / can it reduce negative externalities?

I just think ... we've tried that. It's been the experiment of the last 40 years. What's next?

Re: Blame Cronyism, Not Capitalism

#118
post #81

For the political experts out there, what would happen if we stopped allowing lobbying? That seems to me like the most obvious source of corruption. Edit: ok, I should have worded better. What if we stopped allowing corporate lobbying through donations to elected officials? I understand there would be loopholes to close, but isn't this the obvious source of government corruption?

I would guess the parent comment is referring to paid/corporate lobbyists.

Re: Blame Cronyism, Not Capitalism

#119
One certainly can’t just put a bow on blaming cronyism and assume that capitalism without cronyism would just work (which is what the title implies…. And the article hedges but still kind of implies). Capitalism eventually leads to some pretty unbalanced outcomes as the distribution of profit to the factors of production shift, and it’s not clear that those imbalances would stabilize/correct without extreme intervention (e.g., illegal acts, revolution).

We’re seeing a shift to greater distribution for labor, but that’s after a very long period of favoring capital that doesn’t seem so much to be breaking down as giving way just a tiny bit (like a pressure release valve).

In a fully automated farming, manufacturing, and delivery future, it’s hard to see how capitalism alone would allow for the maintenance of a functioning society. Such conditions would heavily favor engineering/design, raw resources, and (most of all) capital over physical labor.

And, of course, any practical regulation will be imperfect and will lead to functional cronyism as a result of imperfect people working to craft evolving and imperfect laws…

Re: Blame Cronyism, Not Capitalism

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> Company A, having been dominant on the market for a long time, can simply tap into their savings and lower its prices, to the point where X is more attractive to consumers than X'. B, new to the market and wo. such substantial savings, cannot compete and goes bankrupt.

If it was this simple, why have so many gigantic corporations gone out of business over the years? Sears was once the world's largest retailer and built the world's tallest building to use as its headquarters. Now it's a penny stock. Why didn't they just lower their prices to push out competitors? Remember every town in America had a Blockbuster and AOL was synonymous with the internet? What happened to those companies?

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