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New‐onset autoimmune phenomena post‐Covid‐19 vaccination

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Re: New‐onset autoimmune phenomena post‐Covid‐19 vaccination

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They should have some kind of "can't remove from headline" disclaimers for papers like this to keep them from fueling idiocy.

This paper lays out in it's intro that it will make no attempt to find causation, yet in media this headline will be used almost exclusively to prove that point.

Re: New‐onset autoimmune phenomena post‐Covid‐19 vaccination

#62

Anyone that's worried about autoimmune phenomena after vaccination should look at autoimmune phenomena post Covid infection

Disclaimer: Former public health researcher; strongly pro-vaccine.

Your point is true. However, people may find the phrasing slightly aggressive.

The people posting symptom reports here mostly seem to be level-headed and understanding of the public health benefit they took a risk to bring about.

There needs to be an accepting forum for people to report negative outcomes. Such statements provide necessary information on the risks associated with the vaccine, and how to mitigate these risks. They are pro-vaccine.

Re: New‐onset autoimmune phenomena post‐Covid‐19 vaccination

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I’m sorry to hear about your issues. With respect, I’ll take a stand against your claim of there being a tsunami of patients with vaccine injuries innundating rheumatologists - I am in the field and continue to ask colleagues if they are seeing anything of the sort and no-one has seen anything like this. However, if it is happening, we will surely see it in the data. Australia is almost fully vaccinated (but also mor…

Australian with pericarditis here. Both my cardiologist and GP told me they’ve seen a flood of patients (mostly 30-something men) and both told me separately that the published numbers are obviously wrong. What I think is occurring, at least in the case of myo/pericarditis, is that nobody reports cases unless the outcome is really bad. GPs do not habitually report to the TGA, and most specialists don’t either. So the…

The TGA reporting is incredibly easy so that is disappointing. Speaking to my sister (cardiologist) and colleagues in GPland and physicians training I have not heard this - although I am easily able to accept that peri/myocarditis in its mild to moderate forms is more prevalent than the reported instances. I don’t wish to minimise your own experience but think the real crux will be if broader, more significantly lifelong autoimmune conditions develop.

Re: New‐onset autoimmune phenomena post‐Covid‐19 vaccination

#64

I wish we could have a disclaimer on every article/study about vaccine side effects, something like: "This is not an attack on vaccines, pharmaceutical interventions, associated stakeholders or policy makers. This is not a statistical assessment of risk for specific audiences. Please focus feedback and resources on specific treatments for the living human beings who have been injured. Even one in a million is of litt…

Thanks you for this thoughtful response. I chose to be vaccinated and unfortunately have suffered serious consequences like a very small number of other people will statistically. It's been pretty disheartening to see that sharing anything negative about vaccines, even those warned about by medical officials, leads to very negative reactions from people (being told to shut up, being censored/downvoted online etc). I…

I relate. After my vaccination I had about 2 months of severe pains in my gut. I only told a few people because I really believe in the power of the vaccine and know people will twist my own words.

Re: New‐onset autoimmune phenomena post‐Covid‐19 vaccination

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I wish we could have a disclaimer on every article/study about vaccine side effects, something like: "This is not an attack on vaccines, pharmaceutical interventions, associated stakeholders or policy makers. This is not a statistical assessment of risk for specific audiences. Please focus feedback and resources on specific treatments for the living human beings who have been injured. Even one in a million is of litt…

Thanks you for this thoughtful response. I chose to be vaccinated and unfortunately have suffered serious consequences like a very small number of other people will statistically. It's been pretty disheartening to see that sharing anything negative about vaccines, even those warned about by medical officials, leads to very negative reactions from people (being told to shut up, being censored/downvoted online etc). I…

I hope your situation will improve eventually. Are you at least getting compensated?

Re: New‐onset autoimmune phenomena post‐Covid‐19 vaccination

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> you need to know every possible side effect beforehand This is impossible and this stance comes from a complete misunderstanding about how vaccine studies work. Science has, in fact, prevailed here.

If it‘s impossible to iron out side effects, do not make vaccination obligatory then.

Re: New‐onset autoimmune phenomena post‐Covid‐19 vaccination

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post #42

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> you need to know every possible side effect beforehand This is impossible and this stance comes from a complete misunderstanding about how vaccine studies work. Science has, in fact, prevailed here.

If it‘s impossible to iron out side effects, do not make vaccination obligatory then.

If you're afraid of side effects, you should abstain from any form of medical care, then.

Re: New‐onset autoimmune phenomena post‐Covid‐19 vaccination

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I wish we could have a disclaimer on every article/study about vaccine side effects, something like: "This is not an attack on vaccines, pharmaceutical interventions, associated stakeholders or policy makers. This is not a statistical assessment of risk for specific audiences. Please focus feedback and resources on specific treatments for the living human beings who have been injured. Even one in a million is of litt…

Thanks you for this thoughtful response. I chose to be vaccinated and unfortunately have suffered serious consequences like a very small number of other people will statistically. It's been pretty disheartening to see that sharing anything negative about vaccines, even those warned about by medical officials, leads to very negative reactions from people (being told to shut up, being censored/downvoted online etc). I…

Good luck with any compensation. I hear it's even harder to get compensated through the countermeasure program than the regular vaccine program.

Re: New‐onset autoimmune phenomena post‐Covid‐19 vaccination

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post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thanks you for this thoughtful response. I chose to be vaccinated and unfortunately have suffered serious consequences like a very small number of other people will statistically. It's been pretty disheartening to see that sharing anything negative about vaccines, even those warned about by medical officials, leads to very negative reactions from people (being told to shut up, being censored/downvoted online etc). I…

I relate. After my vaccination I had about 2 months of severe pains in my gut. I only told a few people because I really believe in the power of the vaccine and know people will twist my own words.

Hopefully you reported to VAERS. People need to report potential events so that the data is present to do statistical analysis on. It's a shame how terrible the data currently is with all the under reporting.
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