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Post by bigiain »

Uhhrrr wrote: post #364
bigiain wrote: post #103

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And you know, from random strangers, who gives a fuck even if their facts are correct? You owe them precisely nothing for their “contribution” to your discussion. If you block them, it means you don’t want to hear from them any more. They can go butt into someone else’s discussion and see if they are more receptive to “corrections”.

I think it's nice to thank strangers who offer corrections. I'd rather be corrected than have a false feeling that I'm always correct.

Thats fine. Go forth and find your circle of Twitter users who share that view and correct them and receive corrections from them and be happy.

Mr Stross seems not share that view. That's fine too.

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Post by fumar »

bloaf wrote: post #347
MichaelZuo wrote: post #299

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The trouble with blogs like antipope is that more often than not they read like GPT-3, or a more advanced GPT-4, where every sentence seems coherently linked with every surrounding sentence but there’s something that doesn’t seem quite right upon reflection. And so quite a lot of readers think there is some super duper smart guy offering this cool hidden insight that they can easily use, only to forget it by the next…

I kind of agree, its a bit too fragmented. I think there are a handful of "obvious" interactions that should have been called out. Politics + Space: Greater international competition for space-resources will likely begin, and we may see the end of first-come-first-serve orbits. The international inward-turning politics may be particularly poorly timed; we may see irregular military action in space. Politics + Cybersp…

Political parties don't need the data itself. They can use the advertising platforms and their algorithms for a nominal fee. I mean nominal in the grand scheme of controlling the populace through digital graphics and social commentary. That is real and it was applauded when the Obama administration was won. Since then, all politicians leverage algorithms and digital channels to spread their messages.

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Post by caf »

AnotherGoodName wrote: post #200
walrus01 wrote: post #12

Regarding spacex in this, my starlink terminal recently hit a milestone of 0.00% ICMP loss to terrestrial ISP things in the pacific northwest. Averaged over 5, 6 hour periods. 20 icmp pings every 60s, basically a default smokeping install set to once a minute. Previously it was running somewhere around 0.15% to 0.60% which was still totally usable... if you put a similar test setup on a noisy/oversubscribed coaxial c…

I'll go as far as to say that Starlink is now so good i honestly believe it's going to change the other industries and not just its own. As an example I've been looking at properties outside of suburbia since testing a friends Starlink terminal. I know i can get proper broadband on par with cable anywhere. It's changed my personal long term future plans. I think it's going to change a lot of things.

Wouldn't you want to wait for at least two providers before rearchitecting your life around a product like that?

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Post by ansible »

ErikAugust wrote: post #76

“If the SARS family of coronaviruses had emerged just a decade earlier it's quite likely we'd be on the brink of civilizational, if not species-level, extinction by now—SARS1 has 20% mortality among patients, MERS (aka SARS2) is up around 35-40% fatal, SARS-NCoV19, aka SARS3, is down around the 1-4% fatality level. If SARS1 had gone pandemic we might plausibly have lost a billion people within two years.” That’s a sc…

I view COVID-19 as relatively uniquely able to become a global pandemic.

1. Delayed onset of symptoms. That you can spread the disease for a couple days before you first have symptoms has caused so much spreading. If, instead, people were showing symptoms within 12 hours, they'd be much more likely to not be out and about the next day spreading the disease.

2. Wide range of symptoms. Some people felt nearly nothing. Others dealt with it like a minor cold. And others it killed, but not a high enough percentage for most people to take it seriously enough. "Oh, even if I get it, it won't be that big a deal..." kind of thinking. If everyone got at least a "worse than the flu" like reaction to it, everyone would have been taking it more seriously.

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Post by SturgeonsLaw »

ehsankia wrote: post #209
jws wrote: post #164

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Nit, but 550km up. You can visualize the Earth as a basketball with the Starlink satellites crawling around an inch above the surface. (Now, with my local folk out of the way, the rest of you can visualize a football with the satellites 2cm over the surface.)

This reminds me of my favorite "true but hard to believe" fact. Imagine you have a string wrapped tightly around the earth, how much more string to you need to raise the string 10cm above the ground everywhere? The answer just feels so hard to believe, but it indeed only depends on pi and 10cm.

For someone like me, who's ability to do math stops when they run out of fingers and toes, what's the answer?

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Post by psyclobe »

psyclobe wrote: post #240
shepherdjerred wrote: post #233

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That's not terrible. I pay something like $140/mo for 1gbps (in reality I've never seen speeds >300mbps) with no data cap. $100 for ~100mbps with no data cap is reasonable to me.

You know you can like get them to fix that right?

Call them up, say you are not getting the speeds, then when the tech shows up, simply don't let him leave until you can verify a speed test at that rate.

If you get a good tech they will help you, you may get a dud, in which case you simply have to call them up and work the system again.

It's totally doable, I've done it dozens of times at every dwelling I've inhabited. I'm currently on their 1GB plan, and I do get 1.4Gbps down (they recently upped their provisioning rate, and with a newer modem with 1 2GB link on it, with a suitable router [I run the UDM Pro] it works).

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Post by GauntletWizard »

ghaff wrote: post #318
ridgeguy wrote: post #281

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Our experience differs from your view. We recently moved from the Bay Area to the Sierra Foothills, near Sonora. There is plenty of land with homes already in place, as well as land suitable for new construction. Land is available in sizes from 10,000 sq. ft. lots to 1,200 acres and everywhere in between. Electricity, propane, and water are commonly available. As a rule of thumb, prices are ~0.25xthe Bay Area. Althou…

Starlink is incredibly useful for areas that didn't have traditional Internet. It's not perfect but it makes working in rural areas possible where it wasn't before.

It's not even rural. It's less than 3 hours from 3 major cities (and within an hour of a minor one), in a popular weekend vacation spot, and yeah, it's pretty mountainous but it's also got plenty of infrastructure already.

It is amazing how our traditional telcos have failed us. Buildout of broadband was fully-funded by the government in the 90s, and it flopped; They took the money and never built anything. These communities still do not have access to reliable broadband as it was defined then.

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Post by MobiusHorizons »

djtango wrote: post #355
Jedd wrote: post #268

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In Australia, it's $140 / month, plus the capex of $700 for the dish, which obviously won't work on any other provider. I suspect resale on that device, if the carrier allows it, would be reasonable, but I don't expect I'd be moving away from this service. People are comparing (sub)urban US multi-carrier options, or heavily populated countries (like Italy), that have much cheaper pricing. It's not surprising that ter…

>but unusable in storms Dumb Q - is satellite any better in a storm?

I would guess there is less interference between a ground station and a satellite than between two ground stations. Two main reasons:

1) The storm would have to be right on top of the ground station to be in the line of sight when talking to a satellite. For the 3g case, the storm could be anywhere along the 15km between the two ground stations.

2) Storms typically cover a larger area horizontally than they do vertically, so for most angles, communicating with a satellite should go through less of the cloud than horizontal 3g communication. I'm sure there could be storms where this is not true (eg a tall thunderstorm directly above the ground station), but my guess is that such storms are more rare.

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Post by shaklee3 »

walrus01 wrote: post #12

Regarding spacex in this, my starlink terminal recently hit a milestone of 0.00% ICMP loss to terrestrial ISP things in the pacific northwest. Averaged over 5, 6 hour periods. 20 icmp pings every 60s, basically a default smokeping install set to once a minute. Previously it was running somewhere around 0.15% to 0.60% which was still totally usable... if you put a similar test setup on a noisy/oversubscribed coaxial c…

> For anyone who has seen packet loss, jitter and transfer quotas on deeply oversubscribed consumer geostationary services, this is amazing.

starlink is not even close to oversubscribed, so I'm not sure why you're making this comparison.

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Post by shaklee3 »

tschwimmer wrote: post #284
AnotherGoodName wrote: post #200

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'll go as far as to say that Starlink is now so good i honestly believe it's going to change the other industries and not just its own. As an example I've been looking at properties outside of suburbia since testing a friends Starlink terminal. I know i can get proper broadband on par with cable anywhere. It's changed my personal long term future plans. I think it's going to change a lot of things.

What are the chances of Starlink getting worse as adoption grows and available bandwidth gets saturated?

100%. they're nowhere near the satellite/user ratio they're planning.
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