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Re: Make the internet yours again with an instant mesh network

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Post by jethro_tell »

pooper wrote: post #79
jethro_tell wrote: post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I suppose you can, but in my experience, I think you'll find that people proactively find the dynamic ranges of IPs in eyeball networks and make it very difficult to get mail accepted. If you want to send email from your own server, you will either have to get a 'business/static IP' account or use an IP in a block where you can both control the RDNS and servers are expected to be. i.e. a VPS provider or colo IP range…

On a related note, what if I want to run a mail server but only for incoming emails? As in I want to buy a domain and create basically a sinkhole email address and create email addresses like hn@example.com I never need to reply from that email. I just need to be able to read emails I get. Should be much easier, right?

That should be pretty easy. It mostly depends on the exact configuration of the networking where your mail host is and your ability to correctly lock it down so it's not a spam machine.

Receiving email is pretty straight and forward, filtering it can be a little tougher but should be fine.

Re: Make the internet yours again with an instant mesh network

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Post by lanecwagner »

charcircuit wrote: post #62
daenz wrote: post #37

>Enter Yggdrasil This is perhaps the worst branding I've seen in awhile. It's impossible to say correctly without being taught, difficult to remember, and difficult to spell. It's almost like they don't want their efforts to be acknowledged.

It's from Minecraft

Minecraft lifted it too

Re: Make the internet yours again with an instant mesh network

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Post by jaytaylor »

jaytaylor wrote: post #50
fragmede wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The solution is to pay for business-class Internet at your home.

That's true, even though I'm not a business. Would it be more cost effective to do a DO droplet? (haven't tried it personally yet).

Actually I just remembered, I can probably use my free Oracle OCI VM, not sure if they'd set up reverse DNS, though. Will have to file a ticket or search about it to learn more.

Disclaimer: Currently I work there, and it's true anyone can get a free VM "forever" (I've had one for 4 years).

Re: Make the internet yours again with an instant mesh network

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Post by ackbar03 »

I think this touches on an issue with internet decentralization though, a large component (although definitely not all) is to do with lack of unique IP4 addresses which makes it difficult to decentralize even if you wanted to. I have no idea why the whole idea of web3 is associated with crypto now.

Re: Make the internet yours again with an instant mesh network

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Post by SturgeonsLaw »

jaytaylor wrote: post #26
aftbit wrote: post #20

>Nowadays, running a website from home is just about impossible. You may not have a public IP, and if you do, it likely changes from time to time. And even then, your ISP probably blocks you from running servers on it. I'm not sure about the author's country / ISP, but here in Midwest USA, our residential ISPs (cable or DSL, fiber if you are lucky) generally do not change IPs frequently (unless your router/modem is r…

Blocking port 25 is pretty annoying. I know there are explanations, but a month ago I really wanted to run a mail server for jaytaylor.com myself. Only to find out it's basically impossible with mainstream ISPs. It's not a realistic option, regardless of Comcast, AT&T Fiber, no big boy ISP supports it at this point. I don't know if ATT even provides email with my service, much less for a custom domain. How did the de…

Even if it was open, it's very common for spam lists like Spamhaus to block residential dynamic IPs by default

Re: Make the internet yours again with an instant mesh network

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Post by cormacrelf »

cormacrelf wrote: post #77

I was going to ask how the routing algorithm differs from eg Kademlia[1], but then I realised this explicitly builds on Kademlia’s ideas.[2] Kademlia uses “bitwise XOR of peer id” as a distance metric for routing; after querying the DHT you can immediately build a routing table for reaching a particular peer, and you instantly know a next hop for any particular destination you had in mind. Yggdrasil’s contribution is…

Another interesting comparison is Matrix’s Pinecone, which originally used Yggdrasil but eventually wrote their own custom version. See why in the README. https://github.com/matrix-org/pinecone

Re: Make the internet yours again with an instant mesh network

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Post by userbinator »

xwolfi wrote: post #73
userbinator wrote: post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

From what I've heard and experienced, Southeast Asia is mostly "interNAT" -- you don't get a publicly routable IP unless you pay a lot more, CGNAT is all you get.

I have a fiber in Hong Kong and it seems "normal", even if I think we have what you say for mobiles. How do I check ?

Start a listening service, portforward to it if you're behind a NAT router, then use one of the online port scanners or some other host you have access to from somewhere else on the Internet to attempt connecting to it.

Yes, mobile internet has AFAIK always been behind a NAT --- I'm not sure if you can even get such a service with a publicly routable IP, since there's not much interest in e.g. hosting a server on your phone while you carry it everywhere, as useful as that could be.

Re: Make the internet yours again with an instant mesh network

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Post by Tijdreiziger »

bertil wrote: post #68

What was the name of the Spanish company that offered a similar idea circa 2010? They had a big community branding and a catchy name – and the focus was on phone calls.

Perhaps you are referring to Fon, though their idea was quite different (‘democratized public Wi-Fi hotspots’, basically), and despite the name I don’t think they did anything re: phone calls. I think I still have one of their Fonera routers lying around somewhere (long unused by this point).

Looks like they’re still around, but these days they partner with telcos rather than individual consumers [1]. One of the largest Dutch ISPs (KPN) used to provide access to their network on all their consumer modems until 2020 [2].

[1] https://fontech.com/fon-success-stories/

[2] https://www.kpn.com/internet/wifi-hotspots/gratis-wifi-met-f...

Re: Make the internet yours again with an instant mesh network

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Post by cft »

jaytaylor wrote: post #26
aftbit wrote: post #20

>Nowadays, running a website from home is just about impossible. You may not have a public IP, and if you do, it likely changes from time to time. And even then, your ISP probably blocks you from running servers on it. I'm not sure about the author's country / ISP, but here in Midwest USA, our residential ISPs (cable or DSL, fiber if you are lucky) generally do not change IPs frequently (unless your router/modem is r…

Blocking port 25 is pretty annoying. I know there are explanations, but a month ago I really wanted to run a mail server for jaytaylor.com myself. Only to find out it's basically impossible with mainstream ISPs. It's not a realistic option, regardless of Comcast, AT&T Fiber, no big boy ISP supports it at this point. I don't know if ATT even provides email with my service, much less for a custom domain. How did the de…

I pay $15/mo for static IP with att. I just sent a message through the chat in their site, please unblock port 25. They replied ok, and it got unblocked next day
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