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Re: Show HN: Simple User Icons

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http://www.parti.cl/purge_memcache did i just cleared your memcached?

apparently so. thanks for that. the images are so small that they are also cached in the datastore (they are cached at every level - in html, in memcache, and in the datastore), so this is not a big deal at the moment (with just a hundred or so images), but i need to disable this in the future.

Re: Show HN: Simple User Icons

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You might have meant this by "intensity", but you're going to want to vary lightness, not saturation. They should be distinguishable in grayscale.

I suspect that by using the word "intensity" to describe what he's going to change, andrewcooke is well aware of this already :) For everyone else: there's a color model that is occasionally used in computer vision called Hue Saturation Intensity, which pretty much describes the theory of color that andrewcooke and bornon5 are talking about.

Yes... I mixed up the terms. Thanks for spotting that.

While I have never fooled around with it, I think using the LAB colorspace could be interesting as well. As I remember from my psy course, the two most common forms of colorblindness are red/green and yellow/blue.

Given that the LAB colorspace models these exact axes, it could be interesting for something like this.

But as I said, I have not yet investigated a lot in this direction.

Re: Show HN: Simple User Icons

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I like the minimalist design of the site, and I think your idea is the most visually appealing of all the default avatar options out there. Some ideas: Landing page: - Add at least a quick blurb / product explanation to give first-time-visitors a quick, visual idea of what the product is (maybe even an alice/bob style demo conversation). - Have more descriptive action choices "ready? start now for free" and "Learn mo…

thanks for all that. will think them all over. have been very surprised by the number of responses here (just woke up).

the single level of service came from before the GAE pricing update when i was aiming at a dollar a month. do you think even that is too high for people to consider?

Re: Show HN: Simple User Icons

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it's not intended to replace photographs. in fact, one thing i would hope to do in the future is allow people to upload photographs. instead, it's meant to replace the auto-generated images that already exist that use IP addresses (like on stack-overflow, for example). those are really ugly; mine are much nicer (and more flexible). while i was developing this approach i tried lots of ideas. it's actually quite hard t…

> [...] those are really ugly; mine are much nicer (and more flexible). This is a matter of personal preference. The more people you ask, the more opinions you will get. I could chip in mine, but that would serve no purpose. You could see statements like these as a form of libel/defamation. While the statements are not necessarily false, they may cast a negative light on whomever is generating these images (in this c…

He's being honest. The existing solutions aren't any good, so he made one that is better.

There are thousands or millions of FOSS projects that were started because the existing ones are bad, and they've all said that they were started because the existing ones are bad. It's just the way it works.

Now, if both he and his competitors were serious companies with a handful of employees that were charging money, then it would be less appropriate. But they aren't. His project was created because the competition's projects are ugly, and he should be able to say that.

Re: Show HN: Simple User Icons

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I like the minimalist design of the site, and I think your idea is the most visually appealing of all the default avatar options out there. Some ideas: Landing page: - Add at least a quick blurb / product explanation to give first-time-visitors a quick, visual idea of what the product is (maybe even an alice/bob style demo conversation). - Have more descriptive action choices "ready? start now for free" and "Learn mo…

thanks for all that. will think them all over. have been very surprised by the number of responses here (just woke up). the single level of service came from before the GAE pricing update when i was aiming at a dollar a month. do you think even that is too high for people to consider?

No problem - just what came to mind when looking at it. For any things you do consider changing, be sure you are keeping good track of the relevant statistics to help you know what is working and what isn't.

I don't think $1 a month is too high; I think the main difficulty will be just getting the consumer to overcome the mental friction inherit in any online purchase, especially subscription purchases. You're going to have to convince people it's worth getting their wallet out for in the first place, and after that I would guess you could price it anywhere between $1 and $10 and it wouldn't drastically change how many people convert. That's at least given the current state of the product - if you can demonstrate more value, then you may have an easier time convincing people to spend their money on it.

I still think your best bet is to offer a free plan to small userbases, and then charge them once they grow beyond a given size. You could reassure them that they won't lose their images or have their account held hostage if they don't upgrade, it will just be frozen at the max limit of user icons. I would also offer 2 upgrade plans: a basic plan which includes 1 or 2 styles/sizes of icon, and a premium plan with all the customization options. The goal of this would be to make the basic plan more attractive while allowing those who need to customize to do so. Another idea is to pin the free userbase option as a "startup" option, and sell it as a gesture of goodwill towards entrepreneurs vs. a free/paid plan.

I really don't know much about GAE, but do they have some way to sell this as a GAE-compatible plug-in to other App Engine users? That might be a good route to take if they do.

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