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Serotonin selectively influences moral judgment and behavior

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Re: Serotonin selectively influences moral judgment and behavior

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(Just my personal, anecdotal experience - I have strong family history of depression and anxiety on both sides of my family and it's something that's afflicted me since I was a teenager.) I will be extremely hesitant to take antidepressants and anti-anxiety medications ever again after my last experience with them. For me, the medications helped by tempering all of my feelings - I no longer felt sad or anxious, inste…

Had similar. Was suffering from clots and doctors decided it was anxiety. I stopped caring about anything. Saw a love one injured. I felt nothing at all. Someone whom I was normally very protective. Never took another pill.

Re: Serotonin selectively influences moral judgment and behavior

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As does Histamine.

Are you able to elaborate on this? I take a lot of anti-histamines and haven't noticed any difference other than it helps me medically. But I'd like to be on the lookout so I can be my best self.

I second this.

I take antihistamines from April to September. Loratadin absolutely has a negative effect on my mood. Mostly because I feel tired I believe. Switched to Ebastin and no more tiredness. However, I am starting to suspect that it also does affect my mood in some way or another.

During winter I take a pill as a precautionary if I’m going to be in any dusty spaces. The day after I sometimes experience mood swings that I cannot explain.

Re: Serotonin selectively influences moral judgment and behavior

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Maybe we are living in the world of "Brave New World" where there will soon be "Soma" pills of different colors depending on how we feel and how we want to feel.

The big question is ethics. How far do we go to understand, engineer, and change the very nature of what makes us human? Changing the very negative emotions for the future generation would change the world of great art like the next Poe, Van Gogh, Plath, and more.

This changes the very nature of what makes us unique. If everyone is happy, nobody is happy, right?

Re: Serotonin selectively influences moral judgment and behavior

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As does Histamine.

And yeast (via gut bacteria). I’m pretty sure we have been cultivated to breed more of them, not our decision just because they’re delicious.

If we've "been cultivated", they're delicious because our (non) ancestors who didn't like the taste got weeded out by evolution.

Re: Serotonin selectively influences moral judgment and behavior

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Maybe we are living in the world of "Brave New World" where there will soon be "Soma" pills of different colors depending on how we feel and how we want to feel. The big question is ethics. How far do we go to understand, engineer, and change the very nature of what makes us human? Changing the very negative emotions for the future generation would change the world of great art like the next Poe, Van Gogh, Plath, and…

>Enhancing serotonin made subjects less likely to reject unfair offers.

Re: Serotonin selectively influences moral judgment and behavior

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>This harm-avoidant bias after citalopram was also evident in behavior during the ultimatum game, in which subjects decide to accept or reject fair or unfair monetary offers from another player. Rejecting unfair offers enforces a fairness norm but also harms the other player financially. Enhancing serotonin made subjects less likely to reject unfair offers.

So essentially a subject with enhanced serotonin was more likely to be exploited?

>Enhancing serotonin made subjects more likely to judge harmful actions as forbidden, but only in cases where harms were emotionally salient.

What does "emotionally salient" here mean?

Re: Serotonin selectively influences moral judgment and behavior

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post #23
post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are you able to elaborate on this? I take a lot of anti-histamines and haven't noticed any difference other than it helps me medically. But I'd like to be on the lookout so I can be my best self.

I second this. I take antihistamines from April to September. Loratadin absolutely has a negative effect on my mood. Mostly because I feel tired I believe. Switched to Ebastin and no more tiredness. However, I am starting to suspect that it also does affect my mood in some way or another. During winter I take a pill as a precautionary if I’m going to be in any dusty spaces. The day after I sometimes experience mood s…

I have found that n95 masks work wonderfully for working in dusty spaces. A dividend of the pandemic I suppose.

Re: Serotonin selectively influences moral judgment and behavior

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(Just my personal, anecdotal experience - I have strong family history of depression and anxiety on both sides of my family and it's something that's afflicted me since I was a teenager.) I will be extremely hesitant to take antidepressants and anti-anxiety medications ever again after my last experience with them. For me, the medications helped by tempering all of my feelings - I no longer felt sad or anxious, inste…

As a contra-point to this (I feel like these sorts of threads bring out everybody who ever had negative experiences with xyz drug and that can be very harmful to those with mood disorders):

The only reason I'm still alive is due to SSRIs, they have definitely taken away some of the highs of life but they also took away the incessant thoughts of suicide. They have side effects. They suck and the idea of being physically and mentally addicted to a mood stabilizer is a huge bummer. But I know that the people around me (and you) want us around, even if it's not 100 percent of who we really are. If your meds are working for you, messing around with them because you want to "hack" your brain isn't necessarily the best course of action. Be smart.

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