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Adversarial Wordle

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Re: Adversarial Wordle

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For anyone else wondering what makes this adversarial, here's a tweet explanation from the author: https://twitter.com/qntm/status/1479989124908007426

"Full writeup coming another time but mainly it doesn't pick any single word, it maintains a list of possibilities and reduces the list as little as possible with each guess."

Re: Adversarial Wordle

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post #2

For anyone else wondering what makes this adversarial, here's a tweet explanation from the author: https://twitter.com/qntm/status/1479989124908007426 "Full writeup coming another time but mainly it doesn't pick any single word, it maintains a list of possibilities and reduces the list as little as possible with each guess."

The first time I got to 4 green letters, iOS Safari crashed on me. Wasn’t sure if that was the adversarial part, but laughed hoping it was.

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I’ve taken six guesses four times and eight twice. It’s so very tempting to solve it, finding the quickest path, or at least a local maximum if brute-forcing the entire thing turns out to be too computationally prohibitive.

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I was literally playing with the idea of 'Adversarial Worlde', as I also called it, yesterday! Except it was multiplayer with one player being randomly assigned either the role of the guesser or the role of the defender.

Then I learnt that the inventor of Wordle is named Josh Wardle, which could be a portmanteau of war and wordle.

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I’ve taken six guesses four times and eight twice. It’s so very tempting to solve it, finding the quickest path, or at least a local maximum if brute-forcing the entire thing turns out to be too computationally prohibitive.

it would be fun to see if you can pick a word and then force that to be the green word by your guesses

Re: Adversarial Wordle

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Somehow, I always get a large tropical seabird...

    S T E R N (0 green, 0 yellow)
    P L A I D (0 green, 0 yellow)
    M U C K Y (1 green, 0 yellow)
    G O R G E (1 green, 0 yellow)
    W O O F Y (3 green, 0 yellow)
    B O O Z Y (4 green, 0 yellow)
    B O O B Y (5 green, 0 yellow)

    You guessed successfully in 7 guesses!


    S T E R N (0 green, 0 yellow)
    P L A I D (0 green, 0 yellow)
    B O U G H (2 green, 0 yellow)
    W O O Z Y (3 green, 0 yellow)
    B O O K Y (4 green, 0 yellow)
    B O O B Y (5 green, 0 yellow)

    You guessed successfully in 6 guesses!

Re: Adversarial Wordle

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post #7

I’ve taken six guesses four times and eight twice. It’s so very tempting to solve it, finding the quickest path, or at least a local maximum if brute-forcing the entire thing turns out to be too computationally prohibitive.

it would be fun to see if you can pick a word and then force that to be the green word by your guesses

Adversarial² Wordle

Re: Adversarial Wordle

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Somehow, I always get a large tropical seabird... S T E R N (0 green, 0 yellow) P L A I D (0 green, 0 yellow) M U C K Y (1 green, 0 yellow) G O R G E (1 green, 0 yellow) W O O F Y (3 green, 0 yellow) B O O Z Y (4 green, 0 yellow) B O O B Y (5 green, 0 yellow) You guessed successfully in 7 guesses! S T E R N (0 green, 0 yellow) P L A I D (0 green, 0 yellow) B O U G H (2 green, 0 yellow) W O O Z Y (3 green, 0 yellow) B…

Hmmmm....for my first go, I got

    T R I A D (0 green, 0 yellow)
    H O N E S (0 green, 0 yellow)
    C L U M P (0 green, 2 yellow)
    B U L K Y (3 green, 0 yellow)
    F U L L Y (4 green, 0 yellow)
    G U L L Y (5 green, 0 yellow)
Looking at the similarities, I'm wondering if the adversarial nature will generally lead to higher-than-naively-expected frequencies of:

Words with 'y', as people will tend to 'eliminate' the common vowels early, leaving 'y' as a 'substitute vowel' to fill in.

Words with repeated and doubled letters, as a round progresses and the pool ov available letters shrinks.

I wonder what other patterns might emerge from the ruleset?

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