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Youth suicide attempts soared during pandemic, CDC report says

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Re: Youth suicide attempts soared during pandemic, CDC report says

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Post by pdimitar »

tux3 wrote: post #352
pdimitar wrote: post #242

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Okay. And I was saying that people get addicted to crutches as well. It's a risk. I'm not stigmatizing people for needing help and never will. I can accept that my original comment came off a little bit more extremist than I intended but it's IMO also true that you all are projecting a little bit too much, and made me look like a monster who tell legitimately struggling people to suck it off. I don't accept this. I d…

Unfortunately, we can't see any of the nuance that's inside your head. You really have to write that out, or people are right to prepare for the risk that you meant exactly what you wrote .

Skepticism != complete disbelief

I'm amazed I even have to point that out.

Re: Youth suicide attempts soared during pandemic, CDC report says

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Post by artursapek »

xkbarkar wrote: post #353
hnarn wrote: post #340

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> Read up on mass psychosis and mass psychology in general. The entire anti-vaxxer movement makes perfect sense if you look at it like a mass psychosis of denial and a trauma response. Questioning the mainstream media is a bit of a meme these days and unfortunately most people that bring up this point have a bit of an agenda to say the least, but: One thing that’s bothered me about the MSM from the start of the pande…

I’d argue that the mandatory vaccine crowd are exactly the same. Edpecially when natural immunity is completely overlooked. Also I beleive that everytime officcials and MSM and threads like these completely undermine and ignore the millions of people who are traumatized by the pretty rough vaccine side effects ( Moderna is no joke ). these people wonder what else os being hidden. And the gap becomes wider and more fa…

I agree, the music is about to stop for the forced-vaccine zealots

My little sister is triple-vaxxed and sick as hell with COVID right now

I chose not to take any vaccines and just had a pretty mild case of Omicron

But of course I'm still not allowed to go out to dinner in NYC, even though my immunity is now better than someone with a vax card

Re: Youth suicide attempts soared during pandemic, CDC report says

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Post by wombat-man »

wruza wrote: post #259

This pandemic is very strange mental-wise, all my doctors note that. The US, as far as I understand, has huge lockdowns and that may be the factor, but in my country it's called "an advisory self-isolation" and everyone basically lives their life like before, except wearing masks in public places and mandatory vaccination to visit a mall or a restaurant (also "manageable"). I'm not a social person (age almost 40), an…

Kinda surprised I didn't have a worse reaction. I lived alone in a very small One thing I did fairly early on was to get a therapist though. My reasoning was that they could basically help monitor my situation. Not that I don't have things to discuss with a therapist anyways. It helped I guess. No panic attacks, just some sleep issues and minor hallucinations.

Re: Youth suicide attempts soared during pandemic, CDC report says

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Post by emerged »

zx76 wrote: post #329
wruza wrote: post #286

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I thought something was really wrong Yeah, the fear of death as they call it. I really didn't understand this phrase before, thinking it was something abstract. It's unlike any other feeling I've had, just off the charts. And I'm (was) not particularly the guy who is scared to watch a horror movie alone in the night.

I've experienced exactly the same as you both except all the way back in 2015 and so I'm going to offer some unsolicited advice in case it's helpful. I had never heard of panic attacks before I got one, had never worried once about my mental health etc. and so I also ended up at the emergency room convinced my death was imminent. Considering my healthy history my doctor and I agreed to try deal with it on a lifestyle…

I wonder if something like St Johns wort would be enough to keep the panic attacks at bay if the SSRI is so light. Not that in your shoes I’d want to risk a switch after years of success. But it might be a good thing to try for someone who is hesitant to be prescribed.

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Post by chernevik »

The US policy response has been far more costly and destructive than it needed to be.

The pandemic response completely ignored the costs of shutdowns. There has been little or no consideration of their impact on physical health, mental health, education, business, employment, worship. It has been as if COVID was the only risk and the only negative, and any other matter was necessarily secondary. To even mention these matters was considered obtuse.

We have also exaggerated the risks. The disease has a 0.3 risk of fatality, still less for Omicron, and its fatalities largely occur among people with known risk factors. Children are essentially immune from serious effects, but this has been ignored by policy.

ETA: At some point we need a serious reckoning of how we, as a society, mishandled this so badly. I think we'll find the mistakes we've made aren't made on COVID only.

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Post by lifeformed »

simmerup wrote: post #262
honkycat wrote: post #201

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> I think this a very evil, ignorant comment. Sincerely: You should be ashamed of yourself for posting this. I suspect we would all be better off if we were kinder to each other and assumed the best rather than judges each other in this way. Before the internet I doubt most people would be called ‘evil’ in their lives, now it’s almost punctuation.

Maybe not necessarily "evil", but the comment is dangerous and damaging. People who need medication the most are struggling with overcoming the kinds of doubts about this person is just trying to raise up higher. So many people don't make it because they think medication is for the weak, when it's what would've given them the stability to get back to normal.

Re: Youth suicide attempts soared during pandemic, CDC report says

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Post by lifeformed »

pdimitar wrote: post #195
johncolanduoni wrote: post #191

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I find it offensive when I see people assume that the only reason anybody takes psychoactive medication is to deceive themselves. I know people whose lives are much better on medication (and who see the world much more accurately than without it), I know people whose lives are worse. Are you so confident that you can decide for everybody else which group they fall into? The world and the people in it don’t exist to m…

And where did I say that everyone is like this? Christ, people. You aren't necessary everywhere with your "actually" stuff. Chill. I'm sharing what I observe and what I find disturbing. You can just ignore it.

In communicating you must consider how your words will be interpreted. If you think you're being widely misinterpreted, then you should consider that perhaps your communication was unclear and is the source of misinterpretation, rather than blaming others for not figuring out what you really meant.

Re: Youth suicide attempts soared during pandemic, CDC report says

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Post by Breazy »

nicoburns wrote: post #355
xkbarkar wrote: post #353

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’d argue that the mandatory vaccine crowd are exactly the same. Edpecially when natural immunity is completely overlooked. Also I beleive that everytime officcials and MSM and threads like these completely undermine and ignore the millions of people who are traumatized by the pretty rough vaccine side effects ( Moderna is no joke ). these people wonder what else os being hidden. And the gap becomes wider and more fa…

I find your conflation of support for vaccines with support for lockdowns rather odd, because vaccines are the main thing that lessens the need for social restrictions! > Anti vaxx movement is dead. The vaccines are incredibly leaky, and cause pretty severe side effects especially in young men. They do not allow society to resume normality even if 100% are vaccinated ( do the math, the effect wears off so fast that i…

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Post by Breazy »

anon9001 wrote: post #349
wruza wrote: post #259

This pandemic is very strange mental-wise, all my doctors note that. The US, as far as I understand, has huge lockdowns and that may be the factor, but in my country it's called "an advisory self-isolation" and everyone basically lives their life like before, except wearing masks in public places and mandatory vaccination to visit a mall or a restaurant (also "manageable"). I'm not a social person (age almost 40), an…

Strange is an understatement. I can very much relate. But if I'm being honest, so much has improved for me during the pandemic that I don't know how to feel about it. I feel very guilty for saying this because people are dying and I've got more privilege than I can handle, but consider the following: I was already anxious and depressed and wanted to self-isolate. Now everyone is anxious and depressed and forced to se…

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Post by Krasnol »

chernevik wrote: post #415

The US policy response has been far more costly and destructive than it needed to be. The pandemic response completely ignored the costs of shutdowns. There has been little or no consideration of their impact on physical health, mental health, education, business, employment, worship. It has been as if COVID was the only risk and the only negative, and any other matter was necessarily secondary. To even mention these…

Everybody I know who got Covid, got it from their kids which go to school.

Yes mortality is low and kids are quite safe from hard impacts but they don't live in a bubble. They meet people.

Also: even if you don't die of it, it could have severe impacts on your life. Long Covid is a thing.

It's not that simple...

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