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Youth suicide attempts soared during pandemic, CDC report says

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Re: Youth suicide attempts soared during pandemic, CDC report says

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Post by bigthymer »

danhak wrote: post #83
simplestats wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Assets going up in value isn't really a wealth transfer by itself. The buyer is just exchanging a lot more cash for an asset worth a lot more. Their wealth doesn't change overall. Rents are a different story perhaps. The unfair property taxes in California and similar states is certainly wealth transfer though, which got vastly more unfair.

Could you please elaborate on what’s unfair about property taxes in California? From what I understand California has some of the lowest property taxes in the country and Prop 13 let owners lock in their tax basis for life.

Low property taxes inflate house prices. New entrants (e.g. young people) to the market have to pay these inflated prices.

Re: Youth suicide attempts soared during pandemic, CDC report says

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Post by GrigoriyMikh »

wruza wrote: post #259

This pandemic is very strange mental-wise, all my doctors note that. The US, as far as I understand, has huge lockdowns and that may be the factor, but in my country it's called "an advisory self-isolation" and everyone basically lives their life like before, except wearing masks in public places and mandatory vaccination to visit a mall or a restaurant (also "manageable"). I'm not a social person (age almost 40), an…

I had a series of severe panic attacks in beginning of December 2021. Ended up in emergency.

To be clear, i have chronic anxiety which got worse due to me moving to another country where i don't have any relatives. On top of that i was very overworked.

It's been a month since then and i still can't recover. It's very hard for me to go outside. If i go to unfamiliar places or there's too much people i start feeling like panic attack is building up. And on work, i can't concentrate, and have mild panic attacks during meetings(if i have to speak). Took a few weeks vacation which is ending in few days. And i feel like i'm still not ready to start working...

Re: Youth suicide attempts soared during pandemic, CDC report says

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Post by bigthymer »

Der_Einzige wrote: post #338
it_does_follow wrote: post #241

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The idea that if people would stop talking how the world is so bad the world wouldn't be so bad is one of the strangest patterns of thinking I've seen pop up here more recently. The world is in a state of decline, climate change being just one of many stressors on society. Pretending this is not the case doesn't make it go away, and if anything the media is aggressively downplaying the current situation we are in. An…

The world is not in decline. We do not live on a "spaceship earth" because of the potential for astroid/moon mining and space based solar panels. Technological progress continues to outstrip our environmental damage done in it's persuit, and ultimately only technological solutions will get us out of the current issues with climate change. That, and a healthy amount of climate adaptation. Apocalyptic rhtoric is both w…

> Technological progress continues to outstrip our environmental damage done in it's persuit, and ultimately only technological solutions will get us out of the current issues with climate change

I think that, increasingly, people disagree with this, but it is still a minority opinion.

Re: Youth suicide attempts soared during pandemic, CDC report says

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Post by javajosh »

anon9001 wrote: post #349
wruza wrote: post #259

This pandemic is very strange mental-wise, all my doctors note that. The US, as far as I understand, has huge lockdowns and that may be the factor, but in my country it's called "an advisory self-isolation" and everyone basically lives their life like before, except wearing masks in public places and mandatory vaccination to visit a mall or a restaurant (also "manageable"). I'm not a social person (age almost 40), an…

Strange is an understatement. I can very much relate. But if I'm being honest, so much has improved for me during the pandemic that I don't know how to feel about it. I feel very guilty for saying this because people are dying and I've got more privilege than I can handle, but consider the following: I was already anxious and depressed and wanted to self-isolate. Now everyone is anxious and depressed and forced to se…

>I think English may lack a term for how this feels [comfy + unhealthy].

Perhaps we need a word. It would be a good one, since the best words combine complex, even opposite concepts. My first thought was "sickly-sweet". I also like the new phrase "doom scrolling", combining the dramatic and the banal, which also kind of applies. Somehow the phrase "doom snuggle" comes to mind (although this sounds more like a situation resulting in an unusable arm). Maybe better is "isolace", a portmanteau describing the solace of isolation.

Re: Youth suicide attempts soared during pandemic, CDC report says

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Post by GrigoriyMikh »

anon9001 wrote: post #349
wruza wrote: post #259

This pandemic is very strange mental-wise, all my doctors note that. The US, as far as I understand, has huge lockdowns and that may be the factor, but in my country it's called "an advisory self-isolation" and everyone basically lives their life like before, except wearing masks in public places and mandatory vaccination to visit a mall or a restaurant (also "manageable"). I'm not a social person (age almost 40), an…

Strange is an understatement. I can very much relate. But if I'm being honest, so much has improved for me during the pandemic that I don't know how to feel about it. I feel very guilty for saying this because people are dying and I've got more privilege than I can handle, but consider the following: I was already anxious and depressed and wanted to self-isolate. Now everyone is anxious and depressed and forced to se…

Do you go outside at all?

I recently been locked up in my apartment due to panic attacks. Only go to gym to walk on treadmill.

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Post by ya_throw »

ErikVandeWater wrote: post #374
forgotmypw17 wrote: post #246

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are we talking about the elderly who were locked up and isolated from any contact with people they depend on for basic survival needs?

Where were they locking up the elderly? In fully staffed assisted living facilities?

By your same description, prison is a "fully staffed assisted living facility".

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Post by DocTomoe »

Thiez wrote: post #310
theHIDninja wrote: post #251

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>daughters Was it only daughters that attempted suicide? What about sons? With this language, you are implying the life of a woman is worth more than a man's. Why?

I don't think they implied that. I doubt OP meant anything by it; they also refer to their "good" friends, do you also question whether OP is ignoring suicide when it happens to (children of) ordinary friends? The distiction between sons and daughters is interesting though, because women are statistically much more likely to attempt suicide, whereas men are more likely to succeed at it.

No post body was provided.

Re: Youth suicide attempts soared during pandemic, CDC report says

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Post by mjirv »

ErikVandeWater wrote: post #370
crackercrews wrote: post #15

This reporting doesn't make clear that the increase was almost entirely among girls. There was little change for boys. > There was a 22.3 percent spike in ER trips for potential suicides by children aged 12 to 17 in summer 2020 compared to 2019. > The data was particularly alarming among among girls aged 12 to 17. Between Feb. 21 and March 20 this year, emergency department visits for potential suicide attempts were…

Girls are typically more extraverted than boys, which would account for at least some of the difference.

Interestingly, suicides fell sharply during the initial lockdowns in Spring 2020 but surged back in the summer and when kids went back to school.

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Post by mjirv »

watwut wrote: post #302
crackercrews wrote: post #15

This reporting doesn't make clear that the increase was almost entirely among girls. There was little change for boys. > There was a 22.3 percent spike in ER trips for potential suicides by children aged 12 to 17 in summer 2020 compared to 2019. > The data was particularly alarming among among girls aged 12 to 17. Between Feb. 21 and March 20 this year, emergency department visits for potential suicide attempts were…

I suspect one reason are online games. Boys are more likely to play them and in lockdown, they were the one of few socialization available. It does not matter what are reasons for disparity. But, the boys were more likely to continue some unchanged socialization ad they had before. They already had established groups to play with and so on.

According to the CDC data, suicides were way down during the lockdown itself

Re: Youth suicide attempts soared during pandemic, CDC report says

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Post by loceng »

wruza wrote: post #259

This pandemic is very strange mental-wise, all my doctors note that. The US, as far as I understand, has huge lockdowns and that may be the factor, but in my country it's called "an advisory self-isolation" and everyone basically lives their life like before, except wearing masks in public places and mandatory vaccination to visit a mall or a restaurant (also "manageable"). I'm not a social person (age almost 40), an…

It's your body getting a signal through, having to break through only with a panic level cascade, to get an unconscious understanding that the situation unfolding globally is potentially life threatening in an relatively uncontrollable way - and also perhaps observing the authoritarian control mechanisms being implemented around the world may have also lead to your mind extrapolating to that could become someone else wanting to "cage" you - whether you want to or not, taking away your free will; worth panicking for if you're not yet conscious of that possibility.
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