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Youth suicide attempts soared during pandemic, CDC report says

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Re: Youth suicide attempts soared during pandemic, CDC report says

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Is it really a bad take? my parents & aunt had 28,34% gains respectively on the value of their main properties in just 1 year. I'm going to have to pay for that (or settle for a lot less living space) if i want to own anything here in the future. Definitely feels like a wealth transfer.

Yeah, inflation tends do that. The pandemic has been good fuel for inflation and continues to do so, but the fire would have burnt anyways. The fire is monetary policy trying to force growth no matter what. And why is growth forced? Because it's the only way to allow the poor to slightly improve without questioning the endless accumulation of the wealthy.

> The pandemic has been good fuel for inflation and continues to do so

Not just some abstract "pandemic" but specific policies adopted by specific people. Don't turn it into a Hegelian providence as if no one is responsible and it's a self propagating process that would happen regardless.

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Of course nothing that happened before the pandemic could have contributed at all to any feelings of hopelessness. The absolute despair required to want to "end it all" just suddenly happened because of this one situation. The constant 24/7 barrage of "doom and gloom" and just general insanity in the news and "social" media couldn't have laid any groundwork for anyone to feel like there's just no point in even trying…

In regards to the media, parents could be more dismissive of the doom and gloom. Instead I watch parents repeat in front of their children that corporations are evil, sea level will rise by 10's of feet soon, racism everywhere, reverse racism everywhere, the China Communists will take over the world, that the U.S. doesn't manufacture anything, etc. I recall one adult in my entire childhood that laughed off a doom and…

Hi, one of those parents here.

I have on occasion reminded my daughter that the world she’ll grow up in will not be as abundantly beautiful as it is today. Just as it isn’t for me compared to when I was younger.

I’ve also, at those times, reminded her that she has the power and responsibility to be a good steward of the world because nothing is writ in stone.

Just reminding you that cautionary tales aren’t always simply doom and gloom. As an adult who grew up with parents who were dismissive of the worlds problems, I felt sheltered and out of touch when I finally learned about some of the problems we would be facing as humans on this planet.

I have no desire to set up my kids like that. People like my parents took our world and shit on it for all of the generations that follow. They felt it was more important to be positive than face consequences. If we have another boomer generation, we _are_ goners.

Re: Youth suicide attempts soared during pandemic, CDC report says

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medication isn't going to fix that. our society is infected at every level. Urban planning is setup so you can't get anywhere without a car so kids are stuck online all day. We don't have public spaces where you aren't expected to spend money. Our food is tainted and industrialized to have less nutrition. We spent decades digging this grave

You state this with a lot of confidence! >Urban planning is setup so you can't get anywhere without a car so kids are stuck online all day. This wasn't a problem in the 70s and 80s. Kids would just ride their bikes everywhere. >We don't have public spaces where you aren't expected to spend money. Apart from playgrounds, parks, libraries, community groups, all kinds of events... I don't think we've ever had more free…

In many places in the US they'll take your kids into protective custody if you leave them unsupervised.

Re: Youth suicide attempts soared during pandemic, CDC report says

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Maybe not exactly relevant but I’m early 30s and Ive had breakout schizoaffective disorder for a year. It’s bipolar disorder and schizophrenia at the same time. And I have almost come to the point where I can’t live with it anymore in the past few weeks because the symptoms evolve over time. I just wanted to leave this here in case I do die soon. The hardest symptoms to deal with are the depression and anxiety. But t…

Please talk to someone about this, friend, parent, doctor. Consider all options including psilocybin.

Are you sure about the latter? I mean yeah, responsible use and all that, but advising to take even a lightest trip being schizophrenic, depressed and anxious many times a day… I'd stick with the doctor option.

Re: Youth suicide attempts soared during pandemic, CDC report says

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This pandemic is very strange mental-wise, all my doctors note that. The US, as far as I understand, has huge lockdowns and that may be the factor, but in my country it's called "an advisory self-isolation" and everyone basically lives their life like before, except wearing masks in public places and mandatory vaccination to visit a mall or a restaurant (also "manageable"). I'm not a social person (age almost 40), an…

I went to the emergency room after working from home for ~6 months when the pandemic hit. I was having severe chest pain, shaking uncontrollably, and feeling very uneasy. I thought something was really wrong, and ended up going to the emergency room, where they told me it was a panic attack, and everything was okay physically.

Like you, it was also the first time I had experienced a panic attack and learned what it felt like.

Re: Youth suicide attempts soared during pandemic, CDC report says

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Maybe not exactly relevant but I’m early 30s and Ive had breakout schizoaffective disorder for a year. It’s bipolar disorder and schizophrenia at the same time. And I have almost come to the point where I can’t live with it anymore in the past few weeks because the symptoms evolve over time. I just wanted to leave this here in case I do die soon. The hardest symptoms to deal with are the depression and anxiety. But t…

Please talk to someone about this, friend, parent, doctor. Consider all options including psilocybin.

Presse ignore the latter part of this post. Psychedelics are not the solution to the issues caused by shizoaffective disorder.

Re: Youth suicide attempts soared during pandemic, CDC report says

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There are lots of attempts to explain this in the comments: lockdowns, lack of socialisation, pre-pandemic poor mental health, etc. But is not it not much more simple? We were and are in the midst of a global pandemic. A once is a lifetime catastrophic event. The kind of life changing event not experienced in the west since World War II. Of course that's going to cause mental health issues in almost everyone (to varying degrees). It has affected our lives in so many ways (probably many that we don't even realise yet) that trying to pinpoint a specific cause seems like a fools errand.

Re: Youth suicide attempts soared during pandemic, CDC report says

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The research paper[1] in the Lancet from Feb. 2020, on the psychological effects of quarantine predicted this. I think while the first quarantine / lock-down could not be avoided, the current situation could be avoided if we were able to battle the misinformation and reach 90% vaccination in every country. This pandemic is more severe than it has to be because it's also a mental health crisis. The people engaging in…

Vaccination cannot solve this. Herd immunity cannot be established with the current crop of COVID-19 vaccines, due to high transmissibity amongst the vaccinated.

The problem is misinformation, but not the kind you refer to. The misinformation is in the impression given that COVID-19 is a much more dangerous virus than it is really is, especially for the non-elderly.

Most of the public over-estimates the risk of COVID, by 10 to 100 times:

https://archive.fo/wciQp

Re: Youth suicide attempts soared during pandemic, CDC report says

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They were yet to be diagnosed when they went into hospital. That’s my point. They are hospitalized (had a condition that required admission), but not because of Covid.

Of course they weren't. It takes a while for a PCR test result. When someone comes in with "Respiratory problems" on admittance that's not a surprise that they are not diagnosed with COVID immediately is it?
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