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I am a New York City public high school student. The situation is beyond control

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Post by steveylang »

MisterBastahrd wrote: post #469
steveylang wrote: post #334

The current procedures in place were for a Delta pandemic. If schools are to remain open now, the rules need to reflect Omicron. Either you believe Omicron is contagious enough that you have to go back to 100% remote learning, or it is generally harmless enough (especially if you’re vaccinated) that you don’t have such strict standards in place (I am for the latter but that’s just my opinion.) But the situation descr…

Covid isn't some seasonal ensemble. It's still very possible to catch the Delta variant.

That is a good point. But I have read (famous last words) Omicron is now 95% of tested cases, it’s staggering how fast it has overtaken previous strains.

If it was say a pretty stable 50/50 or even 75/25 ratio of Omicron to Delta, that might favor shutting down in-person schools. But this current explosion in cases and resulting chaos is almost all Omicron.

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Post by cipheredStones »

thepasswordis wrote: post #501

I think I'm getting something different from this than what the author intended. * They mention their study hall as a "super spreader event". This feels...hysterical to me. Not just because it worries me that this kid is thinking about this in the way they are, but also because it's wrong . The risk this person faces is much more likely from the HVAC system in the school, not the study hall. * The way they talk about…

It's minutiae to be concerned when someone who just tested positive for covid is talking to you with their mask down?

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Post by agotterer »

I have preschool aged kids in Long Island. They have been to class for 3 days in the past 5 weeks. Every time they return to school there’s another student or teacher who tests positive and the class is closed for 10 days. Last year they missed 8 weeks of school. The impact is detrimental to the children and incredibly challenging for parents.

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Post by kixiQu »

starkd wrote: post #510
thepasswordis wrote: post #501

I think I'm getting something different from this than what the author intended. * They mention their study hall as a "super spreader event". This feels...hysterical to me. Not just because it worries me that this kid is thinking about this in the way they are, but also because it's wrong . The risk this person faces is much more likely from the HVAC system in the school, not the study hall. * The way they talk about…

Indeed, it's truly sad. It's an inability to deal with risk out of all proportion to the reality it actually poses. From his comments, I wonder if he actually thinks he will be dead from standing next to someone who just tested positive. The preliminary results from UK and SA indicate that this recent wave could be a blessing in that it serves as an innoculation rather than severe illness. And children his age are no…

Good thing high school students never live in multigenerational households, right? Or otherwise have family members at high risk?

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Post by ars »

jakeinspace wrote: post #403
ars wrote: post #360

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The divide in this country is just getting larger and lager. You have those who just no longer care about COVID, and those (like the kid in the article) who treat COVID as the most important control in their life. Are COVID deaths higher in the places that ignore? Not that I could see. There's going to be such a divide as these kids grow up. Personally? It's time to move on. Get vaccinated (no boosters), and then ign…

If you control for population density and age then yes, death rates are higher in places with lower vaccination rates (which I presume qualifies as a form of not caring).

As ceras said (and I thought I made explicit), I'm not talking about those not vaccinated, but rather those who did get vaccinated.

Get vaccinated and move on - the data shows that you are safe after being vaccinated. Masks and lockdowns are no longer accomplishing anything.

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thepasswordis wrote: post #501

I think I'm getting something different from this than what the author intended. * They mention their study hall as a "super spreader event". This feels...hysterical to me. Not just because it worries me that this kid is thinking about this in the way they are, but also because it's wrong . The risk this person faces is much more likely from the HVAC system in the school, not the study hall. * The way they talk about…

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Post by starkd »

kixiQu wrote: post #514
starkd wrote: post #510

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Indeed, it's truly sad. It's an inability to deal with risk out of all proportion to the reality it actually poses. From his comments, I wonder if he actually thinks he will be dead from standing next to someone who just tested positive. The preliminary results from UK and SA indicate that this recent wave could be a blessing in that it serves as an innoculation rather than severe illness. And children his age are no…

Good thing high school students never live in multigenerational households, right? Or otherwise have family members at high risk?

When a virus is endemic, it means everyone will get it. Which means most of these precautions are ultimately worthless - other than to flatten the curve and relieve the burden on services. But oh, how long have we been "flattening the curve" now?

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Post by LodeOfCode »

eadmund wrote: post #488
another_story wrote: post #344

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Where are you going to get a few million surrogates? A lot of solutions shared here fail to realize that the majority of US public school teachers are routinely spending their own money on basic classroom supplies.

'Since March 2020, the federal government has provided $190 billion in pandemic aid to schools …'[0] 'There are 130,930 public and private K-12 schools in the U.S.'[1] $190 billion divided by 130,930 is $1.45 million dollars per school. Now, I will readily grant that a million dollars just ain't what it used to be, but it is, even in 2021, still a heck of a lot of money, and it sure sounds from the raw numbers that p…

>shouldn't need to spend their own money on basic COVID-19 supplies

Not covid supplies, school supplies pre-covid (which they also shouldn't have needed to, but did need to nevertheless).

And hiring enough surrogates would eat up a huge chunk of that $1.45 million, given that you'd need, what, ~10 per school for nearly 2 years now? Actually, that's more doable than I expected.

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Post by djrogers »

cipheredStones wrote: post #512
thepasswordis wrote: post #501

I think I'm getting something different from this than what the author intended. * They mention their study hall as a "super spreader event". This feels...hysterical to me. Not just because it worries me that this kid is thinking about this in the way they are, but also because it's wrong . The risk this person faces is much more likely from the HVAC system in the school, not the study hall. * The way they talk about…

It's minutiae to be concerned when someone who just tested positive for covid is talking to you with their mask down?

Given that guidance has said that close exposure for 10-15 minutes is required for transmission, yes - it does seem a little overboard.
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