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Thiel Foundation announces next Thiel Fellow class: 23 entrepreneurs

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Re: Thiel Foundation announces next Thiel Fellow class: 23 entrepreneurs

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Personally, knowing what I know about him, I wouldn’t want any of his money. That’s just me personally, and I wouldn’t judge others by what I would do, but many people do.

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I mean, it's called a hypothetical. They're pretty common. They can even be used as thought experiments to bring out interesting aspects of moral questions.

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I can't speak for Silicon Valley, nor for the majority of HN, but my (obviously biased) sample of approximately 20 HN-reading friends are all massive Thiel fans. Myself included. So perhaps there are more of us than you think, we're just not keen to speak up in the comments section because it just invites a flame war?

If your 20 friends are all "massive fans" of a given person, I agree, that's a pretty solid indicator of significant bias. Well, maybe not if that person were the Dalai Lama or something like that, but Thiel is not the Dalai Lama. (Even a regular llama would be strong competition.) I should add that the same would very much apply if all your 20 friends felt the opposite way - that would be closer to the norm, but sti…

> If your 20 friends are all "massive fans" of a given person, I agree, that's a pretty solid indicator of significant bias.

I'm glad you agree.

Would you say that the tone of your comment reinforces, diminishes, or is neutral with respect to my comment about starting flame wars?

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Considering Peter Thiel is on the list [1] of most hated person on HN and Silicon Valley, I am kinda surprised this reached front page. Does Peter Thiel still does VC? I thought he left YC and Silicon Valley. [1] Mark Zukerberg, Larry Ellison and Peter Thiel.

I can't speak for Silicon Valley, nor for the majority of HN, but my (obviously biased) sample of approximately 20 HN-reading friends are all massive Thiel fans. Myself included. So perhaps there are more of us than you think, we're just not keen to speak up in the comments section because it just invites a flame war?

Yeah, most people I know have a lot of respect for Thiel (myself included) even if they have serious political disagreements with his trump support.

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I fail to see the relevance of your own post as well, and frankly, I don’t see why I’d have to explain myself to you or anyone else, just as I don’t expect any from you.

The point of my post is that there is nothing particularly significant about claiming that you would refuse to take money from someone who is never going to offer it to you to begin with. It's a completely worthless and trivial statement that comes across as posturing.

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Considering Peter Thiel is on the list [1] of most hated person on HN and Silicon Valley, I am kinda surprised this reached front page. Does Peter Thiel still does VC? I thought he left YC and Silicon Valley. [1] Mark Zukerberg, Larry Ellison and Peter Thiel.

I think you might be ascribing too much nuance into such a broad indicator as an upvote. Might it be an interest in where big chunks of VC cash are being thrown, rather than a popularity poll of the man behind it?

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Only certain folks think of the climate as a '"progressive" view'

Not really. It is certainly an issue which progressives put more weight on. And there is a disagreement on the solutions too: progressives are generally apprehensive about nuclear. [1] You can personally attack me with any one of the "certain" labels in the arsenal. But you can also choose to argue in good faith. [1]: e.g. https://www.greenamerica.org/fight-dirty-energy/amazon-build...

> And there is a disagreement on the solutions too: progressives are generally apprehensive about nuclear.

Yeah, this is one of the things I really hate about my side of the aisle. It's stupid, unscientific, and just plain uninformed. Nuclear energy is one of our best, most actually viable ways out of this mess. (File with: GMO crops, 'chemicals', etc.)

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I fail to see the relevance of your own post as well, and frankly, I don’t see why I’d have to explain myself to you or anyone else, just as I don’t expect any from you.

The point of my post is that there is nothing particularly significant about claiming that you would refuse to take money from someone who is never going to offer it to you to begin with. It's a completely worthless and trivial statement that comes across as posturing.

As opposed to posting an opinion as a "comment" to try to get that last word?

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I mean, it's called a hypothetical. They're pretty common. They can even be used as thought experiments to bring out interesting aspects of moral questions.

If the person bringing up the hypothetical were remotely as talented as the people on this list and then made a claim that they'd refuse a free $100,000 in order to advance their interests, that would be a worthwhile discussion. Then we can expand on their point of view, what tradeoffs they make, what actual resources or funding they made use of as well as the kind of diligence they performed when accepting money...

In the absence of those qualifications, some random person saying they'd refuse 100k knowing full they're not in a position to have it offered to them is nothing more than a cheap claim and does nothing but demean the talent and judgement of those who choose to accept it.

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I mean, it's called a hypothetical. They're pretty common. They can even be used as thought experiments to bring out interesting aspects of moral questions.

If the person bringing up the hypothetical were remotely as talented as the people on this list and then made a claim that they'd refuse a free $100,000 in order to advance their interests, that would be a worthwhile discussion. Then we can expand on their point of view, what tradeoffs they make, what actual resources or funding they made use of as well as the kind of diligence they performed when accepting money...…

I don't see what that has to do with anything. They are equally qualified to discuss the moral aspects of the question, which is what they are discussing. This feels like a lame attempt to shame the other commenter out of a point you couldn't answer - and on the basis of a standard you wouldn't pass yourself either.
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