The Hacker's Diet • Hacker News Board

Re: The Hacker's Diet

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Post by justinator » Sat, Jan 08, 2022, 5:15 PM UTC

harveynick wrote: post #35

justinator wrote: post #11

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I think it's solving the wrong problem. If I look at a picture of Mr. Walker himself, https://through-the-interface.typepad.com/through_the_interf... (just the first one that came up on a Google Search) This doesn't look like a fit and healthy man and I don't some that isn't fit and healthy should dole out advice on how to control a chaotic system such as human physiology using engineering. Perhaps - and this is a th…

Your logic seems to be “he doesn’t look like a fitness influencer, therefore he’s not fit and healthy”, and I’m not sure that stacks up. Maybe his goals are not the same as yours, and you shouldn’t conflate them?

I'm specifically not and as an aside I don't look like a fitness influencer either. I'm absolutely saying his goals are not the same as mine as I am literally saying losing weight shouldn't be the end all, be all goal. It should be having a good amount of muscle. The photo I posted makes me think that this guy is just skinny fat, which is what happens when champion diet over exercise.

Re: The Hacker's Diet

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Post by justinator » Sat, Jan 08, 2022, 5:24 PM UTC

jacobmischka wrote: post #31

justinator wrote: post #20

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Take a look at a sub elite/elite power lifter. They may be have a body composition of 20%+ fat, but they are also packing a lot of lean muscle. For the most part, I would call that a healthy individual, even though they're BMI (which is... problematic) would say that this person is overweight and in need of a diet. That doesn't even pass the sniff test for me. Thinness is not the goal you want to achieve. It's a very…

As someone who follows too many fitness influencers, it sounds like you follow too many fitness influencers. Muscle is lean by definition. This guy isn't fit, but I don't think he claims to be. He's a software developer who seems to be uninterested in fitness as a concept, he just doesn't want to be obese, which he isn't. Yes, being fit, strong, and lean is harder than not being extremely overweight. But not everyone…

We're actually not assessing him very differently. But I'm saying being "thin" and "weak" is just as big of a problem as, "fat" and "weak". The problem isn't being fat, it's being "weak". If I'm assessing someone and they have 30% bodyfat, but are as strong as an ox, I'm not worried about their long term health. I use the example of a advanced power lifter in a post, upstream - you know a someone that looks like this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c5ywwZlESOU

Chiseled abs and a penchant for energy drinks isn't needed. If I was to be critical, I'd say that low of a body fat % for long periods of time is counter productive to overall fitness and ugh: the shit you find in some energy drinks.

Re: The Hacker's Diet

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Post by getpost » Sat, Jan 08, 2022, 5:50 PM UTC

ralferoo wrote: post #24

I did this years ago and lost some weight doing it at the time, but the basic premise of "a calorie is a calorie is a calorie" is provably not true. The body's metabolism plays a massive part in determining how many calories are consumed, and this in turn is driven by availability. Long term calorie deficit will result in your body learning how to operate more efficiently, and slow down your weight loss. I've also tr…

>the key take away is that insulin is produced in response to excess carbohydrates,

Citation? My experience is consistent with yours. However, my understanding is that insulin is mainly a signal to cells to take on nutrients, and it is not exclusively a response to carbohydrates, much less "excess carbohydrates." Certain amino acids provoke an insulin response, for example. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/2660133/

Re: The Hacker's Diet

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Post by lupire » Sun, Jan 09, 2022, 12:23 AM UTC

justinator wrote: post #11

gumby wrote: post #8

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Why? It’s been a few years since I saw him last but the diet had really helped him to lose a lot of weight and keep it off. I know others who have lost a lot of weight with it. And his “floater/sinker” graph has been copied in several applications.

I think it's solving the wrong problem. If I look at a picture of Mr. Walker himself, https://through-the-interface.typepad.com/through_the_interf... (just the first one that came up on a Google Search) This doesn't look like a fit and healthy man and I don't some that isn't fit and healthy should dole out advice on how to control a chaotic system such as human physiology using engineering. Perhaps - and this is a th…

He looks fit and healthy to me, for someone who isn't an athlete.

No diet builds muscle.

Re: The Hacker's Diet

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Post by spaetzleesser » Sun, Jan 09, 2022, 9:16 PM UTC

asimpletune wrote: post #34

pizza234 wrote: post #28

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You're very likely what's called "hardgainer" in the fitness field. Just search for it, you'll find lots of information. However, starting with the idea of doing things "quickly" is the worst possible approach. In the fitness, quick improvements are also lost very quickly; plus, staying fit requires permanent, lifelong changes, and in this perspective, quick or slow don't matter.

Please don’t look up “hardgainer”… it’s full of a bunch of ad-speak designed to prey upon your insecurities in the hopes that they can take your money. Some people are skinnier. If you are one of these people it is a very lucky thing, as you are much less likely to experience health issues due to your weight over the course of your life. Gaining weight is harder for you, but i think you know that already? So you can…

"If you want to gain weight you will just have to eat more food?"

That is not correct. Food either gets digested or you just poop more. When I was younger I could eat as or train as much I wanted but I had a pretty hard weight limit I couldn't get above. Thank god I realized that gaining weight for its own sake is a stupid goal so I focused on general fitness.