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I am a New York City public high school student. The situation is beyond control

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Post by lozenge »

op00to wrote: post #39
tomp wrote: post #16

This exemplifies the worst part of this pandemic - the mind virus . A lot of people in the society are LARPing (pretending) that the virus is serious - staying home, testing constantly, "close contact notifications", "running away from a positive student" - yet at the same time, acting as if it's obviously not a dangerous virus - if it were, they'd all be staying away from each other . Basically new "security theatre…

This makes no sense. How is “staying home” not staying away “from each other”?

I think they're saying that people have abandoned the number one effective policy (besides vaccines) - avoiding social visits and working from home - and trying to make up the difference with contact tracing, "being careful", masks, ventilation, lateral flow tests etc.

The difficulty is, nobody wants to Zoom with me any more, so I have to meet them in person or not at all. When it was illegal to meet, people were happy to Zoom 90% of the time, but now they are not.

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Post by Kye »

ajross wrote: post #71
michaelt wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I don’t understand why remote learning during this surge isn’t acceptable. As I understand it, students can minimise their online class and play computer games or browse the web instead. And young children aren't exactly known for their self-control, even if some of us had good self-control at that age. A teacher who finds 5% of students don't respond when called upon might be able to focus on them; but if 95% of s…

> IMHO, reopening schools is more important for the nation than Uh... schools are open. No one has closed schools in this nation. The debate here is whether or not having open schools this month, during the omicron wave, is helping or hurting. The evidence in the linked article is that schools in NYC have organizationally broken down and that no meaningful education is happening anyway. Because it's very difficult to…

Hospitalization and death lags infection by quite a while.

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Post by parkingrift »

nojito wrote: post #102
parkingrift wrote: post #74

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Great for kids...terrible for orphans. https://www.cdc.gov/media/releases/2021/p1007-covid-19-orpha... Human beings aren't numbers on a table or statistics in a study.

We have vaccines and boosters now. Historical statistics are unimportant and meaningless for making policy decisions today.

And when it comes to making policy decisions on a scale of millions of people, humans are statistics.

Those Covid deaths are tragic, but children losing a parent or caregiver is common. 20% of children will experience the death of a parent or caregiver before the age of 29.

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Post by Glyptodon »

da39a3ee wrote: post #62

What’s Study Hall?

Traditionally, a "class" where you study, do homework, etc., but which in practice is usually a lot of so nothing and goofing off. I think it's a way to get funding for educational minutes without actually having to have anything taught for a period.

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Post by parkingrift »

exogeny wrote: post #116
nojito wrote: post #102

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Great for kids...terrible for orphans. https://www.cdc.gov/media/releases/2021/p1007-covid-19-orpha... Human beings aren't numbers on a table or statistics in a study.

[flagged]

“Kids are safe from Covid, statistics overwhelming show.”

“Wow, you’re a sociopath.”

Okay

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Post by Wowfunhappy »

brohoolio wrote: post #9

I don’t understand why remote learning during this surge isn’t acceptable. I’ve seen opinion piece after opinion piece go on and on about how we need to have kids in school. The pieces attack school officials or teachers but complete ignore the logistics of having so many sick teachers. There aren’t enough subs to cover for the teachers. We know this surge will die down in 4-6 weeks. It’s a perfect time to pivot to r…

I guess this is my followup question is, would your opinion change if we replaced “remote learning” with “no school”? Remote learning largely doesn’t work, and I think the fact that it’s seen as an option is warping the conversation.

Now, maybe schools really should close even if remote learning was off the table, because the situation described in the link is quite dire. But see, then I look around, and I see that indoor dining is still open, movie theaters are still open, and a significant portion of Broadway is still open. Schools seem more important than all of that stuff. Maybe we should figure out whatever it is the restaurants are doing?

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Post by tzs »

parkingrift wrote: post #105
nojito wrote: post #97

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You do realize that school children don't live alone correct?

Yes they’ll go home to their vaccinated parents. What edge case are you trying to solve by remaining in a state of hysteria?

What about the ~25% of US adults that are not vaccinated? As far as I know they are at least as likely as vaccinated adults to have school age children. Even taking into account that they probably have a higher chance of homeschooling, that still leaves a lot of kids in public schools whose parents are not vaccinated.

Are you in the "they've had enough time to get vaccinated, so if they haven't done so yet let them get COVID" camp?

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Post by bagacrap »

tlogan wrote: post #103
exogeny wrote: post #87

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It’s a good thing I guess that all kids are orphans and don’t know and never interact with someone who might be old or immunocompromised.

Does anyone have stat on how many fully vaccinated people died?

across all groups, the mRNA vaccines reduce the chance of death by about 15x (data from Switzerland)

https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/switzerland-covid-19-week...

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