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I am a New York City public high school student. The situation is beyond control

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Those children bring covid home.

If you're going to design a virus incubation factory, what you do is put 30 people in a room for 8 hours, turn on the heat, close the windows, try to keep them talking, singing and yelling, then at the end of the day put them on a bus to distribute to every household in town. Repeat for 22 days a month.

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It’s a good thing I guess that all kids are orphans and don’t know and never interact with someone who might be old or immunocompromised.

Does anyone have stat on how many fully vaccinated people died?

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The virus is dangerous, albeit not in the way that most people think. Our institutions, like health care and education, have been running so close to the edge for so long that the added pressure is pushing them over the edge. Before the pandemic, teachers would show up to work sick since they knew there may not be a substitute to take their place (and certainly not a substitute who would ensure continuity in teaching…

Fair analysis. But why is this (truth) so far from the narrative? At some point there needs to be accountablity. I understand that might not be right now. But the list of names and institutions should start sooner rather than later.

The narrative has been changing continually during the pandemic, which is to be expected since we've gone from not understanding what it is and realizing that we were completely unprepared, to lulls where we thought we were getting over it, to spikes where we were largely willing to use what we learned earlier on, to the current spike where people are figuring out that this may be with us for the long run.

As for holding people accountable, where would we even begin? I saw politicians closing beds and physically demolishing hospitals 30 years ago. Politicians of varying stripes did little to rebuild the system after that. While there was a push to hire more people at the start of the pandemic (both in health care and education), the interest seems to have dwindled off since no one wants to deal with the long term costs. Even if they were willing to live with the costs, few sensible people are willing to take on those roles because the involve continual sacrifice. There is also no guarantee that months or years of training will be rewarded with a career since the demand is likely to be short-term. There are so many people who can be blamed, so many people who should be blamed, but it won't address the problem since the decisions were either made in the distant past or are a consequence of inaction rather than of action.

Re: I am a New York City public high school student. The situation is beyond control

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Thank you. I don't understand the hysteria.

You do realize that school children don't live alone correct?

Yes they’ll go home to their vaccinated parents.

What edge case are you trying to solve by remaining in a state of hysteria?

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> The CDC estimates that 573 kids between the ages of 5-18 have died of Covid

It’s even worse, these are kids that died with COVID, not of COVID. So if a child tests positive and then gets killed in a car crash, it’s in this statistic.

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You are failing to consider the spread to vulnerable populations where the symptoms are fatal. Omicron is not mild, people with vaccines have mild symptoms due to its efficacy. All these kids come home to families with parents and grandparents. They also have young siblings.

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Vulnerable population is like half of the population.

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When we'll look back on the panic in 5-10 years, everyone will be mystified. Previous pandemics like the Russian Flu ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1889%E2%80%931890_pandemic ) have stopped naturally without vaccines or major government intervention. How has humanity survived without $BigGov? In Austria (highly locked down, fascist vaccine policy) the cumulative death rate now surpasses Sweden's. This means that you…

There weren’t this many antivaxx idiots around, and they couldn’t spread their bullshit on the internet with no stop.

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Ah, yes because spreading to parents and family who might well die is irrelevant if the students are likely to not die...

Here we go. Move the goalpost. The parents and family should go get vaccinated, no?

Not moving the goal post. I agree that criminalization of leaving home for the unvaccinated gets more appealing by the day. But I also don't know that vaccines actually end it at this point.

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post #86

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The link doesn't mention deaths at all, it talks about disruption to education and an inability to teach despite the move away from remote learning.

Yes, because of the absurd hyperbole and hysterics associated with Covid. It’s pandemonium precisely because of the hysterics, overreacting, and absurd rules and procedures. We’re seriously treating this like it’s the measles.

If you are saying "just have positive people attend school and don't bother testing contacts", then you're not just advocating to give all the kids COVID at the same time, but also all their parents and their parents' contacts - in a very short space of time. So basically the entire population? Why then are you only looking at the number of children that have died of COVID?
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