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I am a New York City public high school student. The situation is beyond control

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Re: I am a New York City public high school student. The situation is beyond control

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From the description it seems like a good problem to solve is "how do we get students the support they needed in 2020 while not creating a dangerous situation?"

they should treat homerooms as the place students stay all day to attend classes semi-remotely. This allows teachers to work while quarantining and students to keep learning if at home temporarily. An issue with covid is it spreads so fast but symptoms may be nothing so I bet most students and teachers could continue at home while isolated and prevent as much disruption (its obviously still not ideal).

at the same time it gives students a place to go. it gives them technical and other support a school provides students.

Re: I am a New York City public high school student. The situation is beyond control

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I don’t understand why remote learning during this surge isn’t acceptable. I’ve seen opinion piece after opinion piece go on and on about how we need to have kids in school. The pieces attack school officials or teachers but complete ignore the logistics of having so many sick teachers. There aren’t enough subs to cover for the teachers. We know this surge will die down in 4-6 weeks. It’s a perfect time to pivot to r…

Public schools main function is subsidized day care since the vast majority of parents both work.

Kids hate remote learning. Its awful looking at a screen, bored, for hours day after day. They dont perform well.

Kids need other kids interactions.

Many substitute teachers are not being allowed to work because they dont want the never ending vaccine regime. I know 3 who did it full time and no longer because of it.

Omnicron being so weak is the perfect time to end the lockdowns and security theater. Get everyone exposed so we can develop nation wide natural immunity, which actually works, and move on with life. Its been close to two years of this madness. Teen suicide is at an all time high, enough is enough.

If teachers don't want to teach, quit, there are many people who would love their position waiting in the sidelines.

Re: I am a New York City public high school student. The situation is beyond control

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The pandemic is constantly reminding us how our institutions weeded out all agency and were running on inertia. Still are trying to, in fact.

The U.S. government allocated $190 billion dollars to schools for pandemic response[0][1]. Some school districts updated their athletic facilities.

There is no single solution to the current problem. Remote learning is a heavy burden on families with two working parents or single parent families that are not afforded the ability to work remotely (and even remote work is challenging -- my teammate can really only work from 8pm-2am without distraction because his two young kids are home and his wife has to go to the office). Yet, because of the current surge, many, many teachers are sick. Administrators are put into awful positions because nothing is going to work at the moment.

[0] https://theweek.com/us/1008705/how-america-could-have-kept-s...

[1] NB: I don't agree whole cloth with the opinions in the article, but it does a nice job outlining that the Federal government handed out large sums of money to local school districts with almost no oversight for how that money was spent.

Re: I am a New York City public high school student. The situation is beyond control

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I don’t understand why remote learning during this surge isn’t acceptable. I’ve seen opinion piece after opinion piece go on and on about how we need to have kids in school. I agree that this would be a great time for temporary remote schooling. I think the problem is that months and months of unnecessary school closures have broken parents (and kids), as well as burned a lot of trust that this will be handled with…

Afaik, Amerika had super strong opposition to any lockdowns or measure from the start. There was no period in which it had super strong lockdowns or super excessive restrictions. It is not backslash to any real policy, it is people who are against those having exact same opinions as they had the whole time.

Schools here were completely remote for 10 months (mid-March 2020 until the end of January 2021), then part time for the next few months, only going back to full time this past fall. Now they seem intent on being full time, even though cases now are much higher than when they had kept the schools closed or part time (hospitalizations are also close to the highest they've been).

Re: I am a New York City public high school student. The situation is beyond control

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This exemplifies the worst part of this pandemic - the mind virus . A lot of people in the society are LARPing (pretending) that the virus is serious - staying home, testing constantly, "close contact notifications", "running away from a positive student" - yet at the same time, acting as if it's obviously not a dangerous virus - if it were, they'd all be staying away from each other . Basically new "security theatre…

The virus is dangerous, albeit not in the way that most people think. Our institutions, like health care and education, have been running so close to the edge for so long that the added pressure is pushing them over the edge. Before the pandemic, teachers would show up to work sick since they knew there may not be a substitute to take their place (and certainly not a substitute who would ensure continuity in teaching…

Fair analysis. But why is this (truth) so far from the narrative? At some point there needs to be accountablity. I understand that might not be right now. But the list of names and institutions should start sooner rather than later.

Re: I am a New York City public high school student. The situation is beyond control

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How mandatory is mandatory though? Is it just gating everything with a vaccine passport, or strapping down people who don't want the vaccination and injecting them? The real issue is once you decide to force people to do this, what else would you do? The slippery slope is a common argument that you'll need to defend against.

> How mandatory is mandatory though?

doctors exemption offers a way out. otherwise a hefty fine (unable to pay means prison time like it is done in Austria)

Re: I am a New York City public high school student. The situation is beyond control

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When we'll look back on the panic in 5-10 years, everyone will be mystified. Previous pandemics like the Russian Flu ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1889%E2%80%931890_pandemic ) have stopped naturally without vaccines or major government intervention. How has humanity survived without $BigGov? In Austria (highly locked down, fascist vaccine policy) the cumulative death rate now surpasses Sweden's. This means that you…

The past goverments did actually responded to pandemics and sicknesses. Quarantine is not something novel. People with disease considered contagious could be banished away. They were no vaccines tho. Those started to be used only after they were invented.

Hence "major government intervention" instead of "government intervention". Do you have a source that the Russian flu (conjectured to be Sars-Cov-0 by some) had any measures like we see now? Certainly not KN-95 masks.

They did not treat it like tuberculosis.

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