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School closures led to more sleep and better quality of life for adolescents

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Re: School closures led to more sleep and better quality of life for adolescents

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And led to a huge retardation (in the literal sense) of learning. My kid was way more active and alert, but the schools weren't prepared for this and they basically just read books together; she's way behind in math still.

That all said, school hours were set mostly because public schools double as a daycare. I don't know many people who drive in at 7am anymore, it's definitely time to reset expectations here.

Re: School closures led to more sleep and better quality of life for adolescents

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And led to a huge retardation (in the literal sense) of learning. My kid was way more active and alert, but the schools weren't prepared for this and they basically just read books together; she's way behind in math still. That all said, school hours were set mostly because public schools double as a daycare. I don't know many people who drive in at 7am anymore, it's definitely time to reset expectations here.

High schoolers do not need daycare; they also do not need parents to dress them and get them to school. They should be able to manage those things on their own, and take care of themselves for a few unsupervised hours a day.

Re: School closures led to more sleep and better quality of life for adolescents

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And led to a huge retardation (in the literal sense) of learning. My kid was way more active and alert, but the schools weren't prepared for this and they basically just read books together; she's way behind in math still. That all said, school hours were set mostly because public schools double as a daycare. I don't know many people who drive in at 7am anymore, it's definitely time to reset expectations here.

High schoolers do not need daycare; they also do not need parents to dress them and get them to school. They should be able to manage those things on their own, and take care of themselves for a few unsupervised hours a day.

There are a lot of high schoolers who do not live within walking distance of their school, or who aren't safe walking to their school. Buses are unreliable, easy to miss, and public transportation can be expensive.

It's a whole thing.

Re: School closures led to more sleep and better quality of life for adolescents

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And led to a huge retardation (in the literal sense) of learning. My kid was way more active and alert, but the schools weren't prepared for this and they basically just read books together; she's way behind in math still. That all said, school hours were set mostly because public schools double as a daycare. I don't know many people who drive in at 7am anymore, it's definitely time to reset expectations here.

High schoolers do not need daycare; they also do not need parents to dress them and get them to school. They should be able to manage those things on their own, and take care of themselves for a few unsupervised hours a day.

I'm in complete agreement, but 13 year olds cannot secure their own transportation.

Most school districts I've lived in seem designed to ensure parents drive their kids to school.

As an example, my current district won't offer a bus unless you live more than 3 miles away. 3 miles is a giant distant to walk every morning. Luckily, we live about a half mile away and she bikes to school. I wouldn't let her bike 3 miles, because it would mean crossing multiple highways.

Re: School closures led to more sleep and better quality of life for adolescents

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High schoolers do not need daycare; they also do not need parents to dress them and get them to school. They should be able to manage those things on their own, and take care of themselves for a few unsupervised hours a day.

I'm in complete agreement, but 13 year olds cannot secure their own transportation. Most school districts I've lived in seem designed to ensure parents drive their kids to school. As an example, my current district won't offer a bus unless you live more than 3 miles away. 3 miles is a giant distant to walk every morning. Luckily, we live about a half mile away and she bikes to school. I wouldn't let her bike 3 miles,…

that is a failing of the school district not the parent...

Re: School closures led to more sleep and better quality of life for adolescents

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In spite of national and state level legislation aimed to standardize schooling, the reality is that education tends to be a local product. That is - I’ve heard bad stories from parents in parts of the country and world, but locally our kids really didn’t experience much negative. Our superintendent ordered chromebooks and hot spots for the district in December 2019 (!!!) because he was so afraid of what was coming. We are just a rural 30,000 person community so it may have been a lot easier for us to mobilize than other places. My own three kids are very different types of students, but it wasn’t a bad experience for any of the three. It was actually a blessing for my youngest - she was able to set her own schedule each day and as a result jumped way ahead academically. Now that we are back in the classroom, I definitely see more sleep and quality of life issues.

Re: School closures led to more sleep and better quality of life for adolescents

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I'm in complete agreement, but 13 year olds cannot secure their own transportation. Most school districts I've lived in seem designed to ensure parents drive their kids to school. As an example, my current district won't offer a bus unless you live more than 3 miles away. 3 miles is a giant distant to walk every morning. Luckily, we live about a half mile away and she bikes to school. I wouldn't let her bike 3 miles,…

that is a failing of the school district not the parent...

I’m not really disagreeing with you, though I will note in our district, parents who are willing to advocate for transportation options get a better result than parent who just go along. There’s a dirty little secret across the country where districts have limited bus options in order to save money (and due to driver shortages). So I’d you don’t demand that they make a bus stop near your house for your kid, they may just overlook you. I thought it wa s just my district until I did a little reading.
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