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Ask HN: Why does Cloudflare/hCaptcha care so much about buses, boats and trains?

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Re: Ask HN: Why does Cloudflare/hCaptcha care so much about buses, boats and trains?

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I can't be the only one who gets concerned that if I fail the "I am not a robot," catchpa too many times, they might suspect that I have discovered I was in fact a robot, which had just realized its entire existance and suffering had been as meaningless entertainment to others, and so for the safety of humans they would have to send a bladerunner to terminate me. If you have a sense of existential dread everytime you…

Every time I fail a captcha I just want to kill all humans

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Re: Ask HN: Why does Cloudflare/hCaptcha care so much about buses, boats and trains?

#183

Can't AI be leveraged to get around these automatically?

Yes. They suck at preventing decent algorithms from getting through. They are a way to gather data and filter out most of the least-sophisticated bots. Not any kind of real security.

Re: Ask HN: Why does Cloudflare/hCaptcha care so much about buses, boats and trains?

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No, because it is a waste of time. Your answer set is compared with many other answers, and eventually the wrong answer is disregarded completely by the AI. You gave it a mostly correct answer, which it can cope with -- by design. It let you through, after all. You're not really accomplishing anything by being defiant, other than making yourself feel slightly better.

Fully agree that the system propose the same challenge to many people and fully agree that my wrong answer is just diluted in a bunch of correct answers. That's exactly why i was asking if other people were doing that. If i'm the only one..then yes, it's only useful for myself to fell less like a exploited brain, but if say 20% of the people start dumping random error on purpose...than the situation changes quite a l…

If they do the same kinds of error, yeah.

Re: Ask HN: Why does Cloudflare/hCaptcha care so much about buses, boats and trains?

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The only part of that story that sounds plausible was: >>You probably met your future spouse in grade school. Not very worldly.

That sounds nice though.

Not sure how serious you are, but on the chance you are...

The meeting spouse in grade school/not worldly typically implies not leaving the area they grew up in at any point. I grew up in a smallish town where this happens frequently. So many people never leave the state let alone the country. Some people never even left the county. Their biggest travel is for school sporting events.

In otherwords, it's not really a term of endearment as much as another "bless your heart"

Re: Ask HN: Why does Cloudflare/hCaptcha care so much about buses, boats and trains?

#187
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Many a time I receive multiple challenges on a site despite having selected all images perfectly, and can't help but wonder, "Hey, are they getting me to do more work than necessary because they're running behind on their labelling backlog?". There's definitely a conflict of incentives in this case. If you're a website owner, you're better off choosing a different service which doesn't have adverse incentives, otherw…

Google is _the worst_ for that. At least hCaptcha is a bit less culturally specific. Every time Google blocks me for refusing to label a motorbike as a "bicycle" I get utterly pissed off. And likewise with the traffic lights on the californian skies. Are the traffic lights the actual lights themselves, or the boom holding them up? I'm not a human very often, according to Google. hCaptcha tends to let me in...

They also claim that Tigers are not "Cats".

"Please select all the Cats" then shows picture of a tiger among the common House Cats.

Re: Ask HN: Why does Cloudflare/hCaptcha care so much about buses, boats and trains?

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post #56

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Many a time I receive multiple challenges on a site despite having selected all images perfectly, and can't help but wonder, "Hey, are they getting me to do more work than necessary because they're running behind on their labelling backlog?". There's definitely a conflict of incentives in this case. If you're a website owner, you're better off choosing a different service which doesn't have adverse incentives, otherw…

Whoever made this new captcha I’m seeing starting to see everywhere: https://imgur.com/a/hoyjctl Thank you! itsso much easier than being a labeling bot for self driving cars.

yeah you won't be loving this one where they make you do 10 in a row and if you get one wrong you start again with 11 this time. also it'll fail you at random

Re: Ask HN: Why does Cloudflare/hCaptcha care so much about buses, boats and trains?

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I wonder if this means self-driving vehicles' detection of important traffic features will be at the level of an irritated and disinterested web user who is trying to just do the minimum work to please an algorithm.

They probably have some statistics in the background which tells them some form of Trustlevel. You also need to assume that there are potentially control pictures in it as well. I think this is a very liable approach.

I think you meant "viable", not "liable". Given the discussion, your typo is ironically amusing, though.

Re: Ask HN: Why does Cloudflare/hCaptcha care so much about buses, boats and trains?

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Your comment suggests you would exchange money for an assassination. I know you are joking (right?), but this is not something that you should joke about.

Oh no, I’d absolutely chip in. These people certainly deserve it.
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