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Re: Tell HN: Salary data is for sale

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Post by smachiz »

inyorgroove wrote: post #295
qbasic_forever wrote: post #201

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At the very least you need to provide proof of your SSN before you start employment in the US (as a US citizen at least). This is required for your social security benefits and some tax info. I believe in most states you actually have to physically show your social security card on the first day of employment now too.

I think you are thinking of form I-9, which is federally required. SS Card is one of may accepted forms of ID, I always use my passport instead.

That form also requires your SSN (or equivalent ITIN for non-citizens).

Using your passport doesn't obviate the requirement that they have your SSN or ITIN for the IRS.

The SSN card proves your eligibility to work, they still need to verify your ID separately (DL, voter card, etc.). They need both pieces. A passport counts as both.

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Post by dheera »

konschubert wrote: post #492
varenc wrote: post #88

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Wow placing a freeze requires filling out a PDF form, attaching a scan of your ID, and then sending it in over email, mail, or fax. The PDF lacks built in form fields you can type in. The extra friction is probably a feature: https://assets.equifax.com/wfs/theworknumber/assets/twn_Empl... (the exif data on that PDF shows the name of the employee that created it and that they used Word 2010...) The Equifax CCPA reques…

With GDPR you could just send them a formless deletion request. There are good parts in GDPR for sure.

GDPR is an EU law and does not have legal legs in the US.

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Post by bigyellow »

Hilarious watching (tech-literate even) people lose their mind over this. While they use their iPad/Android to generate a million data points about intimate life details, conversations and locations on a daily basis - no problem! It's only an outrage when someone says it is.

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Post by dheera »

jokethrowaway wrote: post #385
rhacker wrote: post #95

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Opt out of the system as soon as you possibly can. No mortgage, no bank, no address, no traditional job.

No mortgage and no job are achievable. You kind of need a bank, if you go around with cash the police or other criminals can just seize it. You also may want an address to live somewhere, I'd rather live in a house than in a car.

Have a mailing address that is in the same city but not your residential address.

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Post by drorco »

peoplefromibiza wrote: post #556
bigfudge wrote: post #484

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I used to think this, but I'm not sure the evidence actually supports it. The UK has similar levels of immigration and overseas-born citizens as Scandi countries, but nowhere near their levels of social cohesion/social democracy. We were more similar < 1980, but I think the rhetoric from right wing corporate and billionaire-owned press, and now the internet, has eroded it to a large degree.

> According to 2021 figures from Statistics Denmark, 86% of Denmark's population of over 5,840,045 was of Danish descent, defined as having at least one parent who was born in Denmark and has Danish citizenship. > The most recent Census in 2011 highlights that in England and Wales, 80 per cent of the population were white British > from 2001 to 2011, the percentage of the population of England and Wales that was Whit…

I've visited Italy quite a bit and been there for nearly two months in aggregate, spanning all regions in the north, and in the south spent weeks in parts like Puglia and Campagnia. My impression was that culturally, the Italians in the south are VERY different from the Italians in the north.

Even just the different driving style was very apparent.

Wouldn't you say that the cultural experience in a random village in Puglia will be very different from the random village in Trentino?

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Post by hluska »

Pixeleen wrote: post #299
staunch wrote: post #115

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When I submit the myprivacy.equifax.com validation it hangs at "Processing..." indefinitely. #AbolishCreditAgencies

Credit, bank checking (ChexSystems), and personal information aggregators like Lexis Nexis and Thomson Reuters Clear ought to be abolished or curbed indeed. I hate to bring trans politics into this. I'm sure that's the last thing anybody wants to hear about right now. However we are a class of people whose sexuality can be unfairly identified by these databases.

Trans politics are you politics. Share you politics - they’re important and interesting. :)

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Post by mensetmanusman »

Imagine the scenario where software was made that took this leaked data and sent out personalized emails to every American telling them what their colleagues, boss, and boss’s boss made.

Wonder what this type of psychological software weapon would do politically…

Re: Tell HN: Salary data is for sale

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Post by gruez »

Pixeleen wrote: post #661
rocqua wrote: post #594

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Whose face to you mean? The person being deadnamed, or the person reading the list of names and realizing the person opposite them is trans? It seems to me that, for the purposes of understanding your legal history it makes sense to keep track of someone's deadname at such an agency. If someone accrued massive debt (or massive positive credit) under their deadname, then that still reflects on them. It sucks to have i…

Like the polite banker opening a checking account for me, or please see my other reply with anecdotes. It does also hurt for me to see that deadname and my thanks for knowing that term. It is not one's legal history. It's a monster of a private industry trying to justify its own existence, which the world turned without for the longest time. There are many other ways that these reports have harmed non-trans people wi…

> Like the banker opening a checking account for me who commented "OK, we can move past that," or please see my other reply with anecdotes. It also hurts for me to see that deadname and my thanks for knowing that term.

I don't see what the issue is. The fact that you previously used that name is a piece of factual information about you. Should anyone be allowed to suppress factual information about themselves because they're uncomfortable with it? eg. "10 years ago I racked up enormous amounts of debt. I'm shameful of that. Being reminded of that hurts me. I would like that information to be expunged."

>There are many other ways that these reports have harmed non-transgender people with false, misleading or outdated information.

This isn't really a convincing argument. You can make the same argument for the internet, ie. "there are many other ways that the internet has harmed non-transgender people with false, misleading or outdated information, we should ban it". What about the advantages? ie. banks being able to accurately assess risk, and reliable borrowers not having to pay for the credit risk of unreliable borrowers?

>If someone accrues massive debt, that's the bank's problem, to recover in collections, the court or with the sheriff, and not by giving someone a virtual scarlet letter.

If someone accrues massive debt and refuses to pay it, don't you think it's fair for the lender to tell other people of the experience?

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