super cool. would love a "has lyrics" feature (for my player, https://avant.fm). Always wonder how hard that would be.
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#12How well does this manage songs with key changes?
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#13The moment I saw on the front page that Adele's "Easy On Me" was listed at 142 BPM, I was flabbergasted.
You only have to play the song while looking at a timer for about 15 seconds to see the BPM is far less than half that number.
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#14The moment I saw on the front page that Adele's "Easy On Me" was listed at 142 BPM, I was flabbergasted. You only have to play the song while looking at a timer for about 15 seconds to see the BPM is far less than half that number.
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#15The moment I saw on the front page that Adele's "Easy On Me" was listed at 142 BPM, I was flabbergasted. You only have to play the song while looking at a timer for about 15 seconds to see the BPM is far less than half that number.
It seems they just don't understand time signatures.
Andy Williams "It's the Most Wonderful Time of the Year" is listed as 202 bpm. In some sense, this is correct. The song is in 6/8 time and if you count each of the six beats separately, there are 202 bpm, but this isn't how 6/8 works. Typically you would set the bpm based on a dotted quarter (= 3/8ths) instead of a quarter.
From a listener's perspective, 6/8 basically just means each beat is divided into 3 parts instead of 2. So in a "normal" 4/4 song, you'll hear a down-up, down-up repetition like KICK-up-SNARE-up-KICK-up-SNARE-up, with kick drums on downbeats of 1 and 3 and snare on downbeats of 2 and 4 with one upbeat after each. With 6/8, you'll hear KICK-up-up-SNARE-up-up basically.
(Note that this is distinct from 3/4 [waltz], where you'll hear KICK-up-SNARE-up-SNARE-up, but 3/4 is exceeding rare in popular modern music.)
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#16The moment I saw on the front page that Adele's "Easy On Me" was listed at 142 BPM, I was flabbergasted. You only have to play the song while looking at a timer for about 15 seconds to see the BPM is far less than half that number.
It seems they just don't understand time signatures. Andy Williams "It's the Most Wonderful Time of the Year" is listed as 202 bpm. In some sense, this is correct. The song is in 6/8 time and if you count each of the six beats separately, there are 202 bpm, but this isn't how 6/8 works. Typically you would set the bpm based on a dotted quarter (= 3/8ths) instead of a quarter. From a listener's perspective, 6/8 basica…
BPM reduces songs to something that only makes sense in a limited context, like beatmixing (ex-DJ here) - are there other situations where BPM is helpful?
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#17The moment I saw on the front page that Adele's "Easy On Me" was listed at 142 BPM, I was flabbergasted. You only have to play the song while looking at a timer for about 15 seconds to see the BPM is far less than half that number.
To clarify, I'm coming at BPM strictly from a perspective of segueing from one danceable tune to another. If you go directly from a 140 BPM song to "Easy On Me", you are guaranteed to clear the dance floor, except for maybe a few slow-dancing couples.
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#18Earlier quoted context omitted.
It seems they just don't understand time signatures. Andy Williams "It's the Most Wonderful Time of the Year" is listed as 202 bpm. In some sense, this is correct. The song is in 6/8 time and if you count each of the six beats separately, there are 202 bpm, but this isn't how 6/8 works. Typically you would set the bpm based on a dotted quarter (= 3/8ths) instead of a quarter. From a listener's perspective, 6/8 basica…
BPM reduces songs to something that only makes sense in a limited context, like beatmixing (ex-DJ here) - are there other situations where BPM is helpful?
The stated purpose from the site is to be able to match songs on a playlist, so like keep a consistent bpm across an entire playlist. If that was your goal, you'd presumably want the dotted-quarter bpm for 6/8 instead of the eighth. For a listener, the feel of the song is going to be based on when the kicks and snares come, not how things are divided up within those beats. That's what I was trying to get at, but man it's hard to put a description of time signature into plain text.
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#19I see the data is coming from Spotify, my experience from trying to use their api was that use cases are quite restrictive and you had to request access (they would let us do what we wanted). If the developer is here, what is the agreement you have with Spotify? Do you have any plans of offering an API yourselves? I would be interested in a paid api that gave us access to the data available though the Spotify api, th…
You can find the Spotify Developer Terms here: https://developer.spotify.com/terms Basically, you're not allowed to sell the Spotify in any way.
In those terms, it says "you may not store, aggregate or create compilations or databases of Spotify Content". So for this site to be compliant, they should be serving up the data directly from the Spotify API, which ought to get rate limited pretty quickly (when on the HN frontpage and all), unless they somehow got a very large quota.
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#20super cool. would love a "has lyrics" feature (for my player, https://avant.fm ). Always wonder how hard that would be.
I love avant.fm! Do you know about musixmatch? They have an API for time-synced lyrics and is the source of that data for a bunch of large services.