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Re: Quit Your Job

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The author is Wolf Tivy, a cofounder of Palladium Magazine. Palladium Magazine is funded by Peter Thiel. The other cofounder of Palladium is Jonah Bennett; he now works at a stealth web3 startup and he says on his website he’s a political moderate. However, he also used to work at Tucker Carlson’s Daily Caller and pal around with white nationalists and neoreactionaries. He resigned from Palladium after those ties and…

That is just banal ad hominem and guilt by association.

Re: Quit Your Job

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I'm conflicted by this article. I'm sympathetic to it, but some things just really push past my BS meter. For example: >This is related to why man became stunted with the dawn of agriculture. We traded a life limited by the occasional violent struggle over bountiful surplus for a more predictable life limited by grinding labor after barely sufficient nutrition. Firstly, "man" or humanity did all of their greatest wor…

> humanity did all of their greatest work after the dawn of agriculture. Before agriculture, life wasn't bountiful

This narrative has been disproved again and again by modern anthropologists.

Re: Quit Your Job

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Lobbyist lobbying to make submitting taxes difficult is a net positive?

You have changed your argument. First you challenged the idea that everyone who earns money contributes to society. Then you changed your argument to challenge the idea that everyone who earns money is a net positive to society. Those two things are not the same, and moving the goalposts in this way is intellectually dishonest. A lobbyist contributes to society insofar as that they spend their money in their local co…

How is contributing and net positive not equivalent?

Re: Quit Your Job

#334

"If you lose everything you own, you generally still have your network and skills" I get the general call to action that those who have excess resources should leverage that to take big risks, but this really undersells the possible consequences of losing everything you own. No, you don't always keep your network and skills. Sometimes, you lose everything. You lose friends from fallout or you belatedly realize that y…

It smells like privilege. That isn't to say that the OP was protected regardless. But the mindset that lets you do this is a mindset that comes from a background of abundance. Where you can always get another job if you want one, where you always have friends or parents who will bail you out or give you what you need. A background where things just always seem to work out.

> If you have the resources to spend some time exploring, if you are on to interesting threads of novelty that few other people have, and if you have the spirit to tighten your belt, throw out your map, and explore off-road, then your real job is to do so.

The essay is calling out people of means directly and telling them to stop wasting their time.

If you have the means, it is your real job to do so.

The entire article is a call to build a leisure class. Not whisky and xbox leisure. Newton and Seneca leisure.

This doesn't smell like privilege, it is privilege. But it is highlighting not only the opportunity of that life, but the duty.

Re: Quit Your Job

#335

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It smells like privilege. That isn't to say that the OP was protected regardless. But the mindset that lets you do this is a mindset that comes from a background of abundance. Where you can always get another job if you want one, where you always have friends or parents who will bail you out or give you what you need. A background where things just always seem to work out.

100%. I don't think this person is considering the single mom who has to work multiple minimum wage jobs just to make ends meet; the people who have never had any opportunity to have any sort of "network" to magically get another job. When you're in that position, you're constantly exhausted because of how much you're working. You have no savings. You absolutely cannot afford to just "quit" and have things work out.

The author is explicit about who this is for.

There is never a suggestion that the single mom working multiple minimum wage jobs to make ends meet is the target.

> If you have the resources to spend some time exploring, if you are on to interesting threads of novelty that few other people have, and if you have the spirit to tighten your belt, throw out your map, and explore off-road, then your real job is to do so.

Re: Quit Your Job

#336
"Started looking for a wife"

No need to read further. I wonder if he already had a dog, or whether "looking for a dog" is an activity that requires a wife?

Re: Quit Your Job

#337

The author is Wolf Tivy, a cofounder of Palladium Magazine. Palladium Magazine is funded by Peter Thiel. The other cofounder of Palladium is Jonah Bennett; he now works at a stealth web3 startup and he says on his website he’s a political moderate. However, he also used to work at Tucker Carlson’s Daily Caller and pal around with white nationalists and neoreactionaries. He resigned from Palladium after those ties and…

Hi Jon Stewart, big fan (wink wink)

I was satisfied with this reaction from Jonah wrt the mailing list and such:

https://medium.com/@thejonahbennett/statement-on-emails-83c5...

The Web3 stuff is making me more skeptical, but let's see!

Re: Quit Your Job

#338

The author is Wolf Tivy, a cofounder of Palladium Magazine. Palladium Magazine is funded by Peter Thiel. The other cofounder of Palladium is Jonah Bennett; he now works at a stealth web3 startup and he says on his website he’s a political moderate. However, he also used to work at Tucker Carlson’s Daily Caller and pal around with white nationalists and neoreactionaries. He resigned from Palladium after those ties and…

That is just banal ad hominem and guilt by association.

There was a news outlet around in the last few years called the knife of Aristotle which always seemed a little off to me. I did some research into it and found out the senior editor and many of the board were associated with NXIVM.

This didn’t affect affect the veracity of their articles, which I found were well written, but the association of their company with unsavoury people should cause all but the most naive and callow to ask WHAT their agenda is.

Similarly, this article is extremely pompous, faux-Nietzschean and comes directly from a media outlet owned by self proclaimed nationalists who are apparently also quite unsavoury. This should cause you concern and you should ask for what purpose such bare-faced propaganda is being pushed.

Or, to put in plain Canadian English “birds of a shitfeather flock together”

Re: Quit Your Job

#339

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You have changed your argument. First you challenged the idea that everyone who earns money contributes to society. Then you changed your argument to challenge the idea that everyone who earns money is a net positive to society. Those two things are not the same, and moving the goalposts in this way is intellectually dishonest. A lobbyist contributes to society insofar as that they spend their money in their local co…

How is contributing and net positive not equivalent?

Because a net result is the total after summing positive and negative contributions.

Re: Quit Your Job

#340

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It smells like privilege. That isn't to say that the OP was protected regardless. But the mindset that lets you do this is a mindset that comes from a background of abundance. Where you can always get another job if you want one, where you always have friends or parents who will bail you out or give you what you need. A background where things just always seem to work out.

The idea that only the rich are able to take risks - or even think about it - is a bias, and an ugly one at that. It doesn't match history - the only reason we have many good things is because poor people took major risks - and it's part of the tyranny of low expectations that is seeping deeper every day into the fabric of our culture. It's a remarkably effective way of keeping the pours in their place in the name of…

> the tyranny of low expectations that is seeping deeper every day

Thank you. I agree and in fact I didn't post my initial response because it was too snarky. HN seems to have this idea that people will only take risks if the downside is minimal or a minor career setback. It completely ignores an entire class of people "who have so little that they have nothing to lose."

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